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Dodink

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Fizzcrank

0. Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:27:43 PM PDT

I think there should be different spells for classes based on race, maybe just a different animation, but something.

"Anyone can go to the profession forums and see the <Goblins> and <Gnomes> are ready to band together by sending a gnome piloted helicopter strapped full of goblin sappers straight into Blizzard HQ."

Majorf

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Bronzebeard

1. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:29:02 PM PDT

Still waiting for a Gore ability.

Major F: Always there to lighten the mood :D

Dodink

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Fizzcrank

2. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:29:50 PM PDT

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Still waiting for a Gore ability.

Intimidating Moo?

"Anyone can go to the profession forums and see the <Goblins> and <Gnomes> are ready to band together by sending a gnome piloted helicopter strapped full of goblin sappers straight into Blizzard HQ."

Majorf

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Bronzebeard

3. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:30:35 PM PDT

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Intimidating Moo?

Demoralizing Moo

Major F: Always there to lighten the mood :D

Dodink

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Fizzcrank

4. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:32:04 PM PDT

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Demoralizing Moo

Battle Moo

"Anyone can go to the profession forums and see the <Goblins> and <Gnomes> are ready to band together by sending a gnome piloted helicopter strapped full of goblin sappers straight into Blizzard HQ."

Majorf

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Bronzebeard

5. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:32:48 PM PDT

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Battle Moo

Mooshock

Major F: Always there to lighten the mood :D

Trineti

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Feathermoon

6. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:33:55 PM PDT

Moo Shock. Lesser Gnoming Wave. Dwarf Flay.

This warrior Overpowered me one night, and I woke up the next morning with Thunderclap. =(

Drimwaz

The Venture Co

7. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:41:08 PM PDT

Priests used to have 1-2 special abilities depending on each race, pre-BC i think, whatever happened to that?

EDIT
There it is: http://www.wowwiki.com/Priest_abilities#Racial_abilities

[ Post edited by Drimwaz ]

Deathborn

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Lothar

8. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:44:12 PM PDT

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Priests used to have 1-2 special abilities depending on each race, pre-BC i think, whatever happened to that?

EDIT
There it is: http://www.wowwiki.com/Priest_abilities#Racial_abilities

Even things that appeared minor ended up to be terribly imbalanced. Racial spells are not a good idea. Even the racials we have now generate vast imbalances.. ie. WotF.

Crygil

Blizzard Poster

9. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:48:03 PM PDT

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I think there should be different spells for classes based on race, maybe just a different animation, but something.

At one point in time priests had some different spells based upon their race. What we found is that it's very difficult to keep the balance in that situation and we tended to get a large number of Dwarven priests on the Alliance side, while getting a decent mix on the Horde side, but slightly favoring Undead. While race is meant to be unique, it's not your class and we don't want it to be a major deciding factor in what race you choose for any given class.

So, I wouldn't really look for us to head back to that style of class/race synergy.

[ Post edited by Crygil ]

Kuval

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Stormrage

10. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:49:40 PM PDT

i wish they would just bring back class quests =[

maybe have a race questline too, earn a special title or something.

Purezza

Mok'Nathal

11. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:51:26 PM PDT

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At one point in time priests had some different spells based upon their race. What we found is that it's very difficult to keep the balance in that situation and we tended to get a large number of Dwarven priests on the Alliance side. While getting a decent mix on the Horde side, but slightly favoring Undead. While race is meant to be unique, it's not your class and we don't want it to be a major deciding factor in what race you choose for any given class.

So, I wouldn't really look for us to head back to that style of class/race synergy.

That's b/c Devouring Plague and Fear Ward were no-brainers.
Also, same mechanics, different names? Different animation? If Divine Hymn and Powerful Voodoo did the exact same things on the exact same cool downs and talents and etc., you can balance that, right?

Dodink

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Fizzcrank

12. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:57:34 PM PDT

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At one point in time priests had some different spells based upon their race. What we found is that it's very difficult to keep the balance in that situation and we tended to get a large number of Dwarven priests on the Alliance side, while getting a decent mix on the Horde side, but slightly favoring Undead. While race is meant to be unique, it's not your class and we don't want it to be a major deciding factor in what race you choose for any given class.

So, I wouldn't really look for us to head back to that style of class/race synergy.

I did know about priests and why you changed it, thats why I said maybe just a different animation.

Like using priests as an example, Night Elve's Smite could look silver because they worship Elune instead of the Light.

"Anyone can go to the profession forums and see the <Goblins> and <Gnomes> are ready to band together by sending a gnome piloted helicopter strapped full of goblin sappers straight into Blizzard HQ."

Drimwaz

The Venture Co

13. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:57:51 PM PDT

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That's b/c Devouring Plague and Fear Ward were no-brainers.
Also, same mechanics, different names? Different animation? If Divine Hymn and Powerful Voodoo did the exact same things on the exact same cool downs and talents and etc., you can balance that, right?

I love you.
Now, there is a good suggestion, skills that do exactly the same thing but have different names AND (mainly) visual effects. That would help us to feel unique when comparing to all others of same class.

Flashgordan

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Magtheridon

14. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:59:15 PM PDT

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At one point in time priests had some different spells based upon their race. What we found is that it's very difficult to keep the balance in that situation and we tended to get a large number of Dwarven priests on the Alliance side, while getting a decent mix on the Horde side, but slightly favoring Undead. While race is meant to be unique, it's not your class and we don't want it to be a major deciding factor in what race you choose for any given class.

So, I wouldn't really look for us to head back to that style of class/race synergy.

I find it hard to believe there were even close to the amount of troll priests as undead.

That said, thanks for removing priest racials, those were annoying.

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Dodink

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Fizzcrank

15. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 08:59:33 PM PDT

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I love you.
Now, there is a good suggestion, skills that do exactly the same thing but have different names AND (mainly) visual effects. That would help us to feel unique when comparing to all others of same class.

Thats what I was trying to say in the OP >.<

"Anyone can go to the profession forums and see the <Goblins> and <Gnomes> are ready to band together by sending a gnome piloted helicopter strapped full of goblin sappers straight into Blizzard HQ."

Flashgordan

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Magtheridon

16. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 09:00:36 PM PDT

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That's b/c Devouring Plague and Fear Ward were no-brainers.
Also, same mechanics, different names? Different animation? If Divine Hymn and Powerful Voodoo did the exact same things on the exact same cool downs and talents and etc., you can balance that, right?

Well we already have Bloodlust and Heroism. I don;t see how further renaming/new visuals could hurt us.

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Silvpaladin

Durotan

17. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 09:04:57 PM PDT

Draenei shamans singularly have heroism. (Albeit with the same spell effect as bloodlust)

Which way does your vestigial tail swing?

Purezza

Mok'Nathal

18. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 09:05:06 PM PDT

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Thats what I was trying to say in the OP >.<

Exactly, I'm responding to the blue w/ an example of your good suggestion. The Blue brought up priest spells which was a complete fallacy and almost a straw-man.

Wasselin

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Bonechewer

19. Re: Race + Class differences 05/06/2009 09:05:28 PM PDT

different animation yes.

I hope dance studio brings more customization to all of our character's movements and not just dancing.

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