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You guys at blizzard amazingly always find new ways to annoy people.

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Do you really think someone struggling to hit 2200 right now deserve a 239 weapon?

Note that this is not a debate as to whether or not weapons should be hard to get, but rather that assuming their intent is to make weapons hard to get, is 2200 hard enough?

2200 2v2 is no harder than a 2000 3v3, or a 1750 5v5. It's just way too friggin easy. Yeah, it might not be fair that some people got their 1H weapons already and you didn't because you had no warning, but it is better than waiting until the 19th, when everyone gets their 2 handers.

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Thanks for screwing over 3v3 and 5v5 teams.

So when is this magical patch going to hit to fix errr i mean break 3v3 and 5v5 ratings?

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I think you're confused, in the end it'll make it easier to grab your weapons from 3's and 5's. The question is, how long till the fix goes in.

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Delete "Arena Master" title from everyone and adjust it so that only 2350 in all brackets get it while you are at it with the stealth changes. That will sure annoy yet more people with your "wise" decisions Blizzard.

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That's backwards - it was harder to get arena master before the change, after the change (and the 3v3/5v5 rating hotfix) it'll be easier.

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We had to think pretty long term on this and make the change rather quickly before the PvP 239 items started flowing. The weapons on Algalon were included in other hard mode encounters so it doesn't require an Algalon kill to get them. Over time more than zero people will kill Algalon though and we should see a decent chunk of players with the ilvl 239 weapons, hopefully it's not too much though.

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Have you considered the effects of changing the 3v3/5v5 top-end rating? I'm getting tired of spending time and energy getting in to the top 3, or #1, or whatever, and then having the previous rating ceiling (currently ~2350 in 3v3, soon to be 2600+ I'm sure) invalidated and have another mad rush to #1, as if the season just started over again.

It happened in S5 with the change to the new rating system, which was acceptable because it was a huge, game-changing update and it was your only option at the time. But with this change, all you had to do was make the rating requirements bracket specific: raise the 3v3 requirement to 2400, drop the 5v5 requirement to 2000, and you'd accomplish the same goal without invalidating the current ladder.

Sadly, it seems like the only reason you don't want to do this is because it'd make the 239 weapon tooltips a bit obtuse. In my mind, that's not a good enough reason to trivialize our effort.

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We feel we have made this change early enough in the arena season to have a minimal impact on the rankings.

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Thanks for the reply, but that doesn't really address my concern. Why didn't you keep the rating ceilings where they were, and simply change the items to have bracket-specific requirements?

I don't really accept the idea that it would be too confusing to players. Point gains are bracket-specific, why can't point spending be bracket-specific too?

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Why wouldn't you do specific bracket ratings? Everyone knows it's easier to get higher in 2v2 versus 3v3 and 5v5. By putting the requirement for ALL of them up to 2350, you just shut out anyone not in like the top 20 3v3 teams and there isn't even ONE team in 5v5 up to that rating... unless there is some misunderstanding in the blue post and that in fact what you mean is only 2v2 rating is bumped to 2350 but otherwise this whole change is ludicrous.

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They're going to make a change so that it is easier to get to a high rating (2350+) in 3v3 and 5v5. That change hasn't gone in yet, and the change to 2350 requirements is essentially a stop-gap so that we aren't flooded with 239 weapons on May 19th (the first day you can realistically attain a 239 2 hander).

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