I noticed that GC created two posts on 11/25/2008 directly asking for hunter and warlock arena concerns.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13115791521&sid=1

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13115791524&sid=1&pageNo=1

I believe these were the only 2 classes for which these specific types of posts were made.

Currently, hunters and warlocks are last in both 2's and 3's 2k+.

I suggest if the devs made the post seriously then they take another look through.

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I noticed that GC created two posts on 11/25/2008 directly asking for hunter and warlock arena concerns.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13115791521&sid=1

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13115791524&sid=1&pageNo=1

I believe these were the only 2 classes for which these specific types of posts were made.

Currently, hunters and warlocks are last in both 2's and 3's 2k+.

I suggest if the devs made the post seriously then they take another look through.

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No point really. The posts were made and they did absolutely nothing the players suggested and basically nerfed the classes. Forget about pvp balance and just roll a melee class since they have no clue wtf they are doing with range classes.

I think GC stopped reading that after page 10.... isn't that arena issues thread like over 50 pages now?

Neither of those classes were close to dead last by the end of S5, though I doubt those two threads really amounted to anything for them.

It is 185 pages long and still going.

I sincerely hope he has stopped reading by now.

sad thing is the lock thread was full and locked within the first day and GC unlocked it the same day i believe and never posted again in it. Highly doubt he ever read it too.

In order to stop threads growing so long, you could you know, give feedback :)

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In order to stop threads growing so long, you could you know, give feedback :)

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his feedback makes posts long thats like saying to make some thing less broken you should hit it with a nuke.

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I read all of these threads, especially the ones I started.

We're not sure we will do threads like that in the future. Once they grow so long, players stop reading them and just want to post their own ideas. While that is somewhat valuable, the thread ceases to be a discussion at that point because there is no back and forth among the players.

I also feel those threads set up the unrealistic expectation among players that they were going to see their ideas implemented in the game. We might try them again at some point but we also might experiment with other forms of communication.

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or you could like... know what's going on without asking a group of people that are mostly clueless =/

THE BROTATOSOUP + SANDWICH COMBO. COMES WITH BLUE BREAD.

$5.

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To give Blizz/GC some credit, they did provide us locks with Molten Armor, Glyph of Soullnk, Glyph of Shadowflame. But in the current environment of PVP stunburst dominance by so many classes, us casters and hunters need more survivability.

We have not heard much from blues in the forums lately regarding Melee>Caster/Ranged stunburst dominance, but maybe they're line of thought is that more resilience gear will take care of our defenses? No one knows because they won't post...

All I know is that Caster/Ranged needs immediate band-aids in the 2 basic areas:
a) more armor, shields
b) more escape from stunbursts

I think they do acknowledge the problem, but do not want to commit to any solutions unless they are viable and programmable and do no hurt pve somehow? I have no idea.

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Resilience may be a good fix but what point is having it when you are unable to fight back? I have the utmost respect for devs but I feel that they should try and be forthcoming and at least acknowledge problems like stuns/pets etc.

Hell GC could make a sticky topic where he posts the answers to the most common FAQ's. It may help with some of the QQfest known as DD forums.

I know these issues aren't easy to fix as the mechanics weren't initially designed that way but acknowledgement would make us feel a bit better. Hell Locks were happy when you said something to assuage our concerns when it was said that 3.1 was the pvp patch for Locks. I get why you don't do things like that due to 3.1 being a large disappointment for us thus generating more QQ than previously but at least let us know where we stand for good or ill.

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I read all of these threads, especially the ones I started.

We're not sure we will do threads like that in the future. Once they grow so long, players stop reading them and just want to post their own ideas. While that is somewhat valuable, the thread ceases to be a discussion at that point because there is no back and forth among the players.

I also feel those threads set up the unrealistic expectation among players that they were going to see their ideas implemented in the game. We might try them again at some point but we also might experiment with other forms of communication.

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it more of the fact it gave us hope you where actually gonna do something. But once it hit live and nothing was changed expect two curse where merged to one. After all that feed back, the first couple pages were exactly that feed back. once it went live it became what players wanted to see, because it felt like you came, you read, than you said oh @!** it wait until later to deal with Locks.... im sorry im just giving you our perspective please no ban.

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In my experience, that makes the threads grow longer. Blue posts tend to attract other posts, not all of them quality. When in the past I have attempted to explain why we likely wouldn't implement a particular design, players understandably want to explore the idea further, ask follow-up questions, or argue.

The root of the problem is that many hundred of you are attempting to have a conversation with me. The math just doesn't work for something like that. While I attempt to spend time in these forums every day, I am just never going to able to have the level of conversation on every issue that some players clearly want. If I make a response in one out of every 50 or 100 posts, that is probably a good day.

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Feedback saying you acknowledge certain issues then a lock. Again, you could make an FAQ sticky showing your responses to questions like pets/stuns etc.

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Lol you beat me to it, if it's too much for you to keep track of is there no way of integrating the bluetracker into a forum sticky? You could even allow a player to collate the information ala MMO-Champion :)