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retards are so retarded???

1 - Leave the guild not because they are idiots and rude, but because you only cleared 1-2 wings. The entire instance only takes 3 hourish.

B - When you zone into an instance the loot table for all of the mobs is populated. No new loot is added to the table unless you suck enogh that trash respawns. So they are idiots.

Lastly - If you don't leave the guild please kill the cat every week until they boot you.

Loot is entirely decided upon zoning into an instance not anything else as confirmed by Drysc

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311143050&pageNo=3&sid=1#48

If you go to post 84 and 113 you will see its also based on a Time Stamp Seed.

Good read on all you want to know about how loot is decided if you read all the blue posts in the thread.

We cleared out Naxx 25 the other night like usual, killed Mr. Bigglesworth in the process, and got more BoE drops than we've ever seen before(around 10). In short, your guildmates are morons and you should probably gquit.

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taco taco taco taco

Gquit now. Nothing good can come out of raiding with stupid people.

Every time we have killed the cat KT ends up fearing the main tank! They must be linked!

Don't kill the cat!

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Was in a guild; we raided 10-man Naxx and someone always killed this cat. We've gotten BoE loot despite this. Guild fell apart as they usually do, and I'm in a new one.

We do a 10-man Naxx one night and when I see Mr. Bigglesworth, I get the usual giggle at the /yell text from KT. Then a whisper from someone saying that if I do that again, I'll get booted from the raid.

O.o huh?

In this guild, they believe that the cat's death will drastically reduce the drop rate for BoEs from trash mobs. I say I don't think that is true, never heard that before, and if they're certain it is true, please direct me to proof. They have none. BoEs are rare already and we only cleared 1.2 wings of Naxx that night, so none dropped.

I ask in Trade if anyone knows. Only one person pipes up to say they don't think so. I get a whisper from a raid member being extra snarky at me for "pursuing" the matter. I wonder if this raid member knows the difference between correlation and causation. I say that I've been asking former guildies and non-guildie friends, and no one has heard anything about this, so why am I being punished and threatened? This raid member is focused on the fact that in 1.2 wings of Naxx, we got no epic BoEs to drop and won't stop asking "how many dropped? tell me. tell me."

So I put him on /ignore and log off.

My question is: does killing him really affect the rate? Has anyone see a blue post touching upon this? If it does affect the rate, I'd be glad to apologize and never do it again. If it doesn't, I want to ease the minds of my guildies so that they don't freak out about it again.

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Blizzard has said repeatedly that Loot is generated upon creation of the instance. Random Number Generators are FTW.

So, NO. Bigglesworth is nothing more then an Easter egg that people have theorized about since Naxx 1.0.

Random number generators generate random numbers. (Sort of)

So funny to see this thread. Just did Naxx 25 last night. The other Warlock killed Bigglesworth right at the start of the Raid.

Not. A. Single. Cloth. Drop. All. Night.

Not a one.

Coincidence? Yes. Funny? Absolutely.

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This^

umm yeah /gquit lol

my guild raids naxx and someone always finds a reason to kill the cat :D seems we get more BoE O.o we got the same bloody neck 4 mobs in a row that was odd, so everyone who wanted it got it lol.

Clicking the gem in the chat screen makes tarn helm drop more often.

Didn't you get that memo?

some ppl on my guild just think it makes KT harder o'well not like were gonna find out lol : /

Very impressive if the new guild managed to actually do that without the cat dying. The only time I ever saw a raid restrain itself, the damn cat walked into AOE on the first pull of the last quarter anyway. My old guild tried to use it as an idiot check - people were specifically instructed not to kill the cat before the raid, and people who did kill the cat were marked as potential idiots who fail to follow directions. It didn't work, because the first people in the zone killed him anyway, and they were also the ones most prepared and ready to follow directions.

Of course killing mr bigglesworth does not affect the loot table, what it does though is ensure that the person who killed it dies in some stupid way during the run. Case in point, Deli, a fellow hunter, killed Mr. Bigglesworth. During KT, I was MC'd and wyvern stinged him right as a void zone opened up under him, he promptly died with laughter ensuing. It wont necessarily be during KT, or even a boss, but you will die if you kill Mr. Bigglesworth. KT's revenge is absolute.

It doesn't matter if it affects drop rates or not.

You shouldn't be killing innocent kitties to begin with.

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Of course killing mr bigglesworth does not affect the loot table, what it does though is ensure that the person who killed it dies in some stupid way during the run. Case in point, Deli, a fellow hunter, killed Mr. Bigglesworth. During KT, I was MC'd and wyvern stinged him right as a void zone opened up under him, he promptly died with laughter ensuing. It wont necessarily be during KT, or even a boss, but you will die if you kill Mr. Bigglesworth. KT's revenge is absolute.

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I think this might be true.. one of the pallies in my guild some how in God's name crit 300k on a judgement of blood on the deathknight understudies in razuvious.. lol

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Was in a guild; we raided 10-man Naxx and someone always killed this cat. We've gotten BoE loot despite this. Guild fell apart as they usually do, and I'm in a new one.

We do a 10-man Naxx one night and when I see Mr. Bigglesworth, I get the usual giggle at the /yell text from KT. Then a whisper from someone saying that if I do that again, I'll get booted from the raid.

O.o huh?

In this guild, they believe that the cat's death will drastically reduce the drop rate for BoEs from trash mobs. I say I don't think that is true, never heard that before, and if they're certain it is true, please direct me to proof. They have none. BoEs are rare already and we only cleared 1.2 wings of Naxx that night, so none dropped.

I ask in Trade if anyone knows. Only one person pipes up to say they don't think so. I get a whisper from a raid member being extra snarky at me for "pursuing" the matter. I wonder if this raid member knows the difference between correlation and causation. I say that I've been asking former guildies and non-guildie friends, and no one has heard anything about this, so why am I being punished and threatened? This raid member is focused on the fact that in 1.2 wings of Naxx, we got no epic BoEs to drop and won't stop asking "how many dropped? tell me. tell me."

So I put him on /ignore and log off.

My question is: does killing him really affect the rate? Has anyone see a blue post touching upon this? If it does affect the rate, I'd be glad to apologize and never do it again. If it doesn't, I want to ease the minds of my guildies so that they don't freak out about it again.

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You sound like a somewhat intelligent individual, my advice to you is to find a new guild.

Next week walk in, kill the cat, laugh at everyone and gquit. Hope they make a post about it on the realm forums and you have plenty of popcorn in your pantry.