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  • 0. school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 01:00:28 AM PDT
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hello, I have been doing all the world events to try and work towards my proto drake but am distressed by upcoming childrens week requirement of school of hard knocks. I could understand a requirement to be on a winning team for multiple bg's but to have specific requirements in each bg is unfair and unrealistic. I for one do not play wow for the pvp, i belong to a pve server specifically to avoid the constant ganking of people who have nothing better to do then mess with people having fun. So why am i to be penalized by the need to do specific tasks in pvp bg's that are aimed mainly at people who pvp on reg basis. To make a requirement such as the one to recover a dropped flag in wsg a requirement to get an achievement that lasts for one week is unrealistic. Please reconsider this and make an adjustment to make it fair for all.
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  • 2. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 01:28:20 AM PDT
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Capping a flag in EotS isn't that hard.
Returning a flag in WSG isn't that hard.
Capping a flag in AB isn't that hard.
Capping a tower in AV might be a little tricky, but it's not difficult.

Stop asking for a free proto-drake.

I understand you don't like PvP, but it is apart of the game whether you're on a PvE, PvP, or RP server.
They've already made so many amends to violet proto-drake it's practically free.

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  • 3. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 01:55:43 AM PDT
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hello, I have been doing all the world events to try and work towards my proto drake but am distressed by upcoming childrens week requirement of school of hard knocks. I could understand a requirement to be on a winning team for multiple bg's but to have specific requirements in each bg is unfair and unrealistic. I for one do not play wow for the pvp, i belong to a pve server specifically to avoid the constant ganking of people who have nothing better to do then mess with people having fun. So why am i to be penalized by the need to do specific tasks in pvp bg's that are aimed mainly at people who pvp on reg basis. To make a requirement such as the one to recover a dropped flag in wsg a requirement to get an achievement that lasts for one week is unrealistic. Please reconsider this and make an adjustment to make it fair for all.


Clearly, you are a dedicated player who is working hard for your goal. We understand that this has been something of a controversial achievement. However, after discussion, we feel that it is not outside of the reasonable spectrum. With as hard as you, and players like you, have worked to get the achievements you have obtained, this particular achievement may seem daunting at first. However, all of the goals listed are actually fairly simple to accomplish.
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  • 6. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 01:58:10 AM PDT
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Capping the flag is the only one I'm overly worried about. The others seem like something I can ninja.

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  • 7. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:01:56 AM PDT
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Clearly, you are a dedicated player who is working hard for your goal. We understand that this has been something of a controversial achievement. However, after discussion, we feel that it is not outside of the reasonable spectrum. With as hard as you, and players like you, have worked to get the achievements you have obtained, this particular achievement may seem daunting at first. However, all of the goals listed are actually fairly simple to accomplish.


"Fairly Simple" in comprehension perhaps. But I find that its not so simple to DO for some people.
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  • 8. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:03:08 AM PDT
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The problem is going to be that every other person in the battleground will be trying to do the same achievement.

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  • 10. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:05:30 AM PDT
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I predict there will be matches where no one will try to capture the flag so that no one can return it to the base.

I think that having an acheivement to actually carry the flag might counter this, but since there are generally classes that are better flag carriers than others, it might not be feasible.

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  • 11. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:06:03 AM PDT
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Capping the flag is the only one I'm overly worried about. The others seem like something I can ninja.


EotS flag returns are very doable, so long as you and maybe a small group of your friends make it a priority.
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  • 12. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:06:44 AM PDT
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Camping 400 eggs is easy, but when you get into BG's like I do capping a flag or a tower isn't necessarily so simple. I havn't been in a winning BG in 3 months, let alone one where anyone on my teams have ever captured much of anything.
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  • 13. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:08:55 AM PDT
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EotS flag returns are very doable, so long as you and maybe a small group of your friends make it a priority.


yeah capping an eots flag is no big deal, but didn't this acheivement originally have a requirement of capping a WSG flag?
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  • 14. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:09:35 AM PDT
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I shall be doing this achivement even tho I have not done a single other world event or been in a BG more than a couple of times. Just for fun :)

Even tho I despise pvp, don't enjoy it in the slightest and were I going for the drake would hate it too.

To prove a point that it's not hard to just buckle down and do something ^^

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  • 15. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:10:02 AM PDT
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Returning a flag in WSG isn't that hard.


This one needs to go. Takes too much twitchy skill for players that never ever PvP due to not liking the format.

The others are fine and could even be asked for if they become frusterated. But no one is going to let someone return a flag in WSG, they all will just reflex click it as usual.

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  • 18. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:11:41 AM PDT
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Camping 400 eggs is easy, but when you get into BG's like I do capping a flag or a tower isn't necessarily so simple. I havn't been in a winning BG in 3 months, let alone one where anyone on my teams have ever captured much of anything.


Luckily it doesn't say you have to win. You can cap and hold one tower (Mage Tower I would assume in your case) and go zerg the flag. Also, if you're with friends, you could have a plate wearer or druid grab the flag and drop it in front of you near the capture point. You don't personally have to carry the flag form the spawn point.

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  • 19. Re: school of hard knocks   04/30/2009 02:11:43 AM PDT
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Clearly, you are a dedicated player who is working hard for your goal. We understand that this has been something of a controversial achievement. However, after discussion, we feel that it is not outside of the reasonable spectrum. With as hard as you, and players like you, have worked to get the achievements you have obtained, this particular achievement may seem daunting at first. However, all of the goals listed are actually fairly simple to accomplish.


Given Value of simple may differ based on but not limited to.

Class
Spec
Race
Time
Ability
Achievement Junkies not allowing others to have a turn
Pre-mades
Low population BG's
Faction dominating BG's
Lag
Resilience
And anything not a Death Knight - Warrior - Paladin - Rogue

But yeah Blizzard I wrote a post about this when holiday event achievements first came out for wow and predicted this one causing MAJOR issues - also incoming QQ on Torch Juggler (40 torches juggled in 15seconds IN DALAGARAN) Good luck

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