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Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

0. Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 03:58:55 PM PDT

We hotfixed a change to the amount of healing provided by Death Strike.

Originally, this ability was something you would use only situationally to heal yourself at a cost of damage. Since then we have redesigned the death knight class sufficiently to where Death Strike was a major rotational ability for Blood. Given how much the attack is hitting for, we think the amount of healing it provided was too much.

Healing still scales based on diseases and the damage is unchanged. Blood retains its other tools to heal.

UPDATE: We have since made another hotfix to just change the way the healing works completely. It now heals 5% of the death knight's health per disease on the target, up to a max of 15%. This should allow Frost and Unholy to benefit from Death Strike healing while letting Blood benefit from extra Death Strike damage. The tooltip will not reflect this change until we can patch the client.

[ Post edited by Ghostcrawler ]

Ghostcrawler
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Mipps

< CrossRoads >

Frostwolf

1. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:01:10 PM PDT

i was wondering why my healing was low >.<

Abscess

< Lost Legacy >

Argent Dawn

2. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:01:35 PM PDT

Annihilation, here I come?

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Iapetes

< PALS FOR LIFE >

Laughing Skull

3. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:01:38 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We hotfixed a change to the amount of healing provided by Death Strike.

Originally, this ability was something you would use only situationally to heal yourself at a cost of damage. Since then we have redesigned the death knight class sufficiently to where Death Strike was a major rotational ability for Blood. Given how much the attack is hitting for, we think the amount of healing it provided was too much.

Healing still scales based on diseases and the damage is unchanged. Blood retains its other tools to heal.

How much did you nerf it by? Or do you not know offhand?

Erythnhul

< Krimson Kaos >

Silver Hand

4. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:02:15 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We hotfixed a change to the amount of healing provided by Death Strike.

Originally, this ability was something you would use only situationally to heal yourself at a cost of damage. Since then we have redesigned the death knight class sufficiently to where Death Strike was a major rotational ability for Blood. Given how much the attack is hitting for, we think the amount of healing it provided was too much.

Healing still scales based on diseases and the damage is unchanged. Blood retains its other tools to heal.

Perfect for PvE, in all areas of the game the healing of a blood DK's Deathstrike was OP.

However, blood is no longer at all feasible to spec when compared to Frost or Unholy for PvP.

Calsifer

< Was This Your Instan… >

Gorgonnash

5. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:02:45 PM PDT

Could someone explain to my ignorant self how death strike is used (post change) and how much it heals for with x gear?

I'm Sorry, Was This Your Instance?

Alpine

< US Horder Patrol >

Ner'zhul

6. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:03:21 PM PDT

I'm liking this new approach to fixing things. 10/10 for Blizzard

Iapetes

< PALS FOR LIFE >

Laughing Skull

7. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:03:30 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Perfect for PvE, in all areas of the game the healing of a blood DK's Deathstrike was OP.

However, blood is no longer at all feasible to spec when compared to Frost or Unholy for PvP.

This sounds suspicious to me. If blood was reliant on such big heals from their strikes the spec has some serious problems O.o

Yorick

< A Guild >

Arygos

8. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:03:48 PM PDT

Okay, so Blood has other tools to heal. What about the other two trees who used Death Strike for its healing but *not* its damage prior to 3.1?

Sacrificing damage for healing was an interesting choice to make and it made me enjoy having Death Strike on my bar in addition to Scourge Strike. Now, DS is pretty pointless for both unholy and frost. Will there be a healing-focused replacement coming?

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Illuvataar

Illidan

10. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:04:49 PM PDT

So it's intended to only be healing for 590 when I have 3 diseases on the target?

cause its not even worth the FU runes anymore if thats the case, the ability will literally never get used.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Dreadmore

Amerika

< PALS FOR LIFE >

Laughing Skull

11. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:06:02 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
How much did you nerf it by? Or do you not know offhand?

Yesterday I crit a death strike and healed myself for over 7k with only self buffs.

Today I get a crit and I'm healing myself for 1350 with regular heals of just over 600.

That seems to be a bit drastic IMHO. Granted, I am uholy currently and do not have talents to buff up Death Strike so your mileage may vary.

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MikeMo

Erythnhul

< Krimson Kaos >

Silver Hand

12. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:06:21 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
This sounds suspicious to me. If blood was reliant on such big heals from their strikes the spec has some serious problems O.o

I assume you mean in PvP? It does have serious problems (when you consider the power of Frost and Unholy).

Bansheena

< Dreadnought >

Skullcrusher

13. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:06:22 PM PDT

Got Blood?

I do.

And I wish I didn't.

I do less dmg than Unholy and Frost and I heal up worse than ever now with the nerfs to Vampiric Blood and DS. And DRW is dead in PvP.

So basically I am not PvP viable now. I can't do burst, and I can only heal minimally while healers in this game get to blast me with the best burst around (see Ret pallys and Boomkins and ferals) and then heal to their hearts content.

Flatulent

Stonemaul

14. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:06:28 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
So it's intended to only be healing for 590 when I have 3 diseases on the target?

cause its not even worth the FU runes anymore if thats the case, the ability will literally never get used.

If you used a 10k damage ability for its heal, I'm guessing locks would have a word with you.

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Iapetes

< PALS FOR LIFE >

Laughing Skull

15. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:06:56 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Yesterday I crit a death strike and healed myself for over 7k with only self buffs.

Today I get a crit and I'm healing myself for 1350 with regular heals of just over 600.

That seems to be a bit drastic IMHO. Granted, I am uholy currently and do not have talents to buff up Death Strike so your mileage may vary.

O.o

Sivv

< BOSSer >

Demon Soul

16. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:07:20 PM PDT

^^ maybe its only suposed to heal like shadow priests do...

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Kwichang

< Cursed >

Frostwolf

17. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:07:37 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We hotfixed a change to the amount of healing provided by Death Strike.

Originally, this ability was something you would use only situationally to heal yourself at a cost of damage. Since then we have redesigned the death knight class sufficiently to where Death Strike was a major rotational ability for Blood. Given how much the attack is hitting for, we think the amount of healing it provided was too much.

Healing still scales based on diseases and the damage is unchanged. Blood retains its other tools to heal.

I think you should consider weather or not DK's will push the button when the healing is that low...

I suspect it will be removed from the DK's bars altogether...

Is it possible a mistake was made and it was over-nerfed GC?

Iapetes

< PALS FOR LIFE >

Laughing Skull

18. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:07:58 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

I assume you mean in PvP? It does have serious problems (when you consider the power of Frost and Unholy).

Probably better to improve it other ways than 7k heals every strike, though that is a serious nerf, jesus.

Illuvataar

Illidan

19. Re: Death Strike healing nerf 04/17/2009 04:09:20 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

I think you should consider weather or not DK's will push the button when the healing is that low...

I suspect it will be removed from the DK's bars altogether...

Is it possible a mistake was made and it was over-nerfed GC?

Its not even close to worth runes for anything other then blood now. Im going to take the hotkey and the ability off my bar completely if this is intended.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Dreadmore

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