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  • Korgath
  • 0. Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST READ)   04/10/2009 06:22:20 PM PDT
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(copy and pasted from gameriot)

Serennia is a member of SK gaming, consistently has been or close to #1 in every bracket in arenas.



Hi Vance, great to see you, I wanted to do an interview with you since other interviews around here are quite sucketh, so let's get right to the questions:

What's your take on DK's right now? Too easy to play, scrub-friendly, high skill cap, overpowered?
Uhh, all of the above? DK's are a very easy to class to get into (which was obviously a good marketing decision by Blizzard) and the class also has the most leniency when it comes to making mistakes. A DK can often cover mistakes by use of a cooldown or by a "surprise" 6k crit. Although there are lots of finer details and strategies that advanced death knights will utilize, the current state of arena and PvP balance requires close to none of the most advanced tactics, just simply spamming more damage into your opponent than they can heal through.



Have you ever been on the receiving end of losing to bad DK teams?
All the time. There's little else more frustrating than completely outplaying some dk team only to watch them emerge victorious because they got 3 back-to-back killing machine procs and completely **** on someone even after making enormous mistakes such as getting their lichborne turned, strangulate cleansed, death grip grounded, etc etc. Although other classes also have a wide margin for error (read: paladins), none are as bad as the room DK's have for error. It's rather frustrating when you're on the receiving end of this, as well. Hopefully 3.1 fixes this as much as Blizzard thinks it will.



So who is the best DK you have played with or against?
Tough question. 99% of DK's are drooling idiots, but there are a couple that stand out from the crowd to me, from my experience. Memm from Ner'zhul and Handiiman from Blackrock. I've played with and against both of these guys and they're definitely top notch. They make mistakes, like anyone, but they also put out enormous pressure while also knowing how to protect their teammates with timely peels.



And the worst?
Well, the worst high-rated DK I have ever seen easily goes to Rngesus of Boulderfist. Kid talks so big yet is probably the biggest joke of a DK I have ever seen on TR. Beat him on so many different classes and comps that I lost track, really. Good luck on his endeavours for Dglad, though!



Do you think Shadowcleave will be viable in 3.1?
Viable? Yes. As dominant? No. Affliction and warlocks in general are taking several hits but shadowcleave didn't always rely on having a DoT'd healer chain feared to their death. Moreso usually fully DoT'd dps and pets with timely fears on the healer resulting in an overwhelming about of damage/pressure to heal through which would cause one interrupt or silence to lead to a kill. DK ranged burst is getting nerfed, as well as their spread damage a bit, but the core is still there. DK's are simply becoming a melee class that you can actually kite and effectively be relatively safe from at a distance, unlike now.



Is Jasi getting gladiator this season?
Not sure, is he working with Prince?



What are the best comps for each bracket right now?
2v2: paladin/dk
3v3: I honestly feel PHD is the strongest ladder comp right now due to melee cleave not having any chance against it unlike the ability to instagib a warlock on shadowcleave.
5v5: people still play this? anything with >1 dk I guess



Who do you think are the most overrated players in arena currently from EU and US?
EU: Icematikx from Stormscale. Everything I've heard about him from many EU players including his past and current partners point to the indication that he pretty much blows and is carried by OP comps and great partners like Bloodx.

US: Mewbert of Kel'Thuzad. Oh wait, I forgot you have to be recognized at least to be overrated somehow. In that case, I'd say Buddhist from Black Dragonflight. Don't get me wrong, because he makes some really entertaining videos and all, but his most recent video has 589 skill points voted on it from Warcraft Movies. Is this a joke or are people voting skill points for entertainment value now? Not a single thing in that video showed any modicum of skill. Hilarious and entertaining? Sure. Skillful? Err... no. This is also apparently agreed upon by almost everyone I ever talk to about him, as well.



And most underrated players?
EU: Kalimist from Stormscale. This guy is the real deal and from what everyone tells me, I think that he deserves a lot more acclaim than he gets. Having the top two teams on EU TR, Brutal Gladiator and possibly Deadly Gladiator, and even the notion that some people have that he actually carries Hydra should at least tell you something about his skill.

US: Veex from Executus. Although he didn't have the greatest LAN showing at MLG Orlando (nor did we, lololol), this guy has been at the top of almost every competitive online arena ladder ev

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  • Nagrand
  • 1. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:29:35 PM PDT
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Who do you think are the most overrated players in arena currently from EU and US


Don't name and shame people. First it's not allowed on this board, second it's stupid.
Now about the rest of your post, I couldn't care less about what a 16y old nerd thinks about balance in this mini-game that is Arena.
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  • 2. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:29:46 PM PDT
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interesting.
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  • 3. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:31:32 PM PDT
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eh, Serennia has some serious attitude issues. Wouldn't take his opinions too seriously.
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  • Black Dragonflight
  • 4. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:31:45 PM PDT
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Half of this isn't even needed
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  • 5. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:32:52 PM PDT
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Ahah about him being butt hurt about the new buddhist vid lololol
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  • Maiev
  • 6. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:33:58 PM PDT
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Serennia is a D-bag who talks bad about everyone but somehow thinks he is the best player ever.

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  • Cho'gall
  • 7. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:34:56 PM PDT
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Ahah about him being butt hurt about the new buddhist vid lololol


Or maybe he just sincerely thinks that Buddhist is an average player that is horribly overrated?

Because he is.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cho%27gall&n=Magss
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  • 8. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:35:14 PM PDT
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You'll get banned for this copy and paste. Nonetheless, it's a good post. Both Serennia and Ming may be blowhard egotists, but they know their business, and there's always a lot of truth--if not the whole truth--in their posts.
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  • 9. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:36:04 PM PDT
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Or maybe he just sincerely thinks that Buddhist is an average player that is horribly overrated?

Because he is.


Nope he's just butt hurt people got a laugh out of his raging and making his gnome look like an idiot :)
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  • Korgath
  • 10. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:37:18 PM PDT
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Serennia is a D-bag who talks bad about everyone but somehow thinks he is the best player ever.


Its pretty hard to argue with his live track record of consistently being #1 or close to it in every bracket

BTW you're also in the 1800 bracket as shadow frost

question mark?

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  • Blackrock
  • 11. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:37:21 PM PDT
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Ming an egotist? That's a new one.
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  • Black Dragonflight
  • 12. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:37:31 PM PDT
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Or maybe he just sincerely thinks that Buddhist is an average player that is horribly overrated?

Because he is.
Yea bro Boomkin/Spriest/Rogue top 10 3v3 s2 and s3, totally bad.
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  • 13. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:38:55 PM PDT
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Yea bro Boomkin/Spriest/Rogue top 10 3v3 s2 and s3, totally bad.


I honestly can't see how someone can be average and make gladiator every season :S
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  • Burning Legion
  • 14. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:41:21 PM PDT
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It's just e-fame jealousy. Nothing more, nothing less. Buddhist's videos are hilarious and good. Is he the best rogue ever? No, but he sure as hell isn't "average."

They don't know that we know they know we know!


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And so Moonwrath sailed away on his magnificent craft, his nautical-themed pashmina Afghan flapping in the salty breeze.
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  • Cho'gall
  • 15. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:41:29 PM PDT
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Yea bro Boomkin/Spriest/Rogue top 10 3v3 s2 and s3, totally bad.


I hear everybody at the top of a bracket is an exceptionally skilled player and mediocre players never get there. I've fought his balance/spriest/rogue when I was on stormstrike and was horribly unimpressed besides the spriests play. I've seen his videos. He's average, sorry.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cho%27gall&n=Magss
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  • Blackrock
  • 16. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:41:56 PM PDT
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I honestly can't see how someone can be average and make gladiator every season :S


By rolling a death knight
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  • 17. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:43:01 PM PDT
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By rolling a death knight


he's a rogue though <_<
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  • Blackrock
  • 18. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:43:53 PM PDT
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he's a rogue though <_<


Is he a lvl55+ rogue?
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  • Black Dragonflight
  • 19. Re: Serennia's take on DK's being OP (MUST RE   04/10/2009 06:44:49 PM PDT
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I hear everybody at the top of a bracket is an exceptionally skilled player and mediocre players never get there. I've fought his balance/spriest/rogue when I was on stormstrike and was horribly unimpressed besides the spriests play. I've seen his videos. He's average, sorry.
He doesn't make videos based on skill, wow you're really retarded. He makes entertaining videos.
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