/sign

or give me my bag of tricks

I too am curious, Drysc; will the Cooldown for blind be reduced too? A simple yes/no would make me happy :D

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I'm not sure why the change may have been implemented and then removed, there could be any number of reasons. I don't think it's really an important question at the moment though as the change is still planned to go in.

In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP.

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If this means that you will no longer be able to Blind targets under the effect of Blessing of Protection, please reconsider - this is basically the only thing Blind is consistently useful for.

Or are you removing the ability to dispel/cleanse Blind?

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I'm not sure why the change may have been implemented and then removed, there could be any number of reasons. I don't think it's really an important question at the moment though as the change is still planned to go in.

In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP.

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Physical attack? wth, 1. So now we have absolutely no recourse of cc on a player that has been BoP'd and 2. Dwarfs can no longer stoneform out of blind....I'm sorry but that's really lame....

That's like taking WoTF from an undead rogue.

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I'm not sure why the change may have been implemented and then removed, there could be any number of reasons. I don't think it's really an important question at the moment though as the change is still planned to go in.

In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP.

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WORST IDEA EVER.

Ok, not requiring a reagent, no biggie. Sounds fine.

The rest of it: retarded.

So you are nerfing rogues in PVE, while simultaneously buffing their PVP CC?

Now there will be no way for me to prevent a rogue from CCing me for 15+ seconds, at all.

And diminishing returns for PVE? It was a horrible idea for cyclone, and its just as bad now. Rogues need their CC for pve, its what makes them useful. They do NOT need to be able to CC better in pvp, they need more actual survivability. Rogues stunlock is already very powerful, no need to make one of its abilities unstoppable short of a trinket.

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Physical attack? wth, 1. So now we have absolutely no recourse of cc on a player that has been BoP'd and 2. Dwarfs can no longer stoneform out of blind....I'm sorry but that's really lame....

That's like taking WoTF from an undead rogue.

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Your comaprison does not work. Stone form out of blind effects against one class. Fear three classes can do so its not the same as taking WoTF away from UD. Sucks? yes Fair? not really. But it sucked when they screwed us out of our stun resists too. It happens and you still can get rid of bleeds. I think its great now it cant be cleansed. Love the change.

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WORST IDEA EVER.

Ok, not requiring a reagent, no biggie. Sounds fine.

The rest of it: retarded.

So you are nerfing rogues in PVE, while simultaneously buffing their PVP CC?

Now there will be no way for me to prevent a rogue from CCing me for 15+ seconds, at all.

And diminishing returns for PVE? It was a horrible idea for cyclone, and its just as bad now. Rogues need their CC for pve, its what makes them useful. They do NOT need to be able to CC better in pvp, they need more actual survivability. Rogues stunlock is already very powerful, no need to make one of its abilities unstoppable short of a trinket.

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Its called bear form use it.

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Physical attack? wth, 1. So now we have absolutely no recourse of cc on a player that has been BoP'd and 2. Dwarfs can no longer stoneform out of blind....I'm sorry but that's really lame....

That's like taking WoTF from an undead rogue.

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Trust me, as a rogue I think these changes will make you overall more viable in arena. After having done a lot of 2v2 with a rogue, blind being a poison was a severe limitation to what we were capable of. Druid teams just ripped us apart. Blessing of Protection is the lesser of two evils.

Stoneform not removing it is a problem, but it'll still be there as a mechanism to remove 5 stacks of wound poison and crippling poison all at once, which is still quite the boon. Not to mention bleed effects so you can vanish properly.

I must be blind to see that a petition for signing actually worked?

See what I did ther

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I must be blind to see that a petition for signing actually worked?

See what I did ther

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blind worked ? D:
u think if we petition for vanish itll work? D: oh wait if it does rly work then the petition will disappear and itll be never fixed.
c what i did ther?

edit: woah 2 blues ;o

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Its called bear form use it.

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I'm a balance druid.

Its called a brain, use it.

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Technically it's still a ranged attack that is part of the nature spell school, it just isn't a poison anymore.

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Was the cooldown reduced to 60 seconds like it was on the test server?

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I'm a balance druid.

Its called a brain, use it.

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You want to pvp then go ferel you want to pve then stay balance.

SEE BOLD LINE.

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Technically it's still a ranged attack that is part of the nature spell school, it just isn't a poison anymore.

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Clarified, thank you.

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If its a ranged attack with a nature spell school, does this mean it can be resisted and not miss?

Or even partial resists?

Thank you.

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it can be resisted but talents that increase resistance to poisons will not affect it since its nature and not poison nature.
Edit : Changed Deadly throw to be a Ranged Physical attack.

/Signed i aggree 100%

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Technically it's still a ranged attack that is part of the nature spell school, it just isn't a poison anymore.

(edit) Scratch that, we've updated it to be a ranged physical attack.

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Whoa its Kalgan.

While you guys are making the rounds, could you stop in the Shaman forums, even if just to say hi?

We've never seen you in there, and it would make a lot of players happy to see you.