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  • Eredar
  • 0. Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem here   09/13/2007 10:38:39 AM PDT
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I'm currently lvl 70 and I want to lvl up my newly tamed lion: The Rake. At 70, I'm going to have to melee a great deal to bring this kitty where she can claw somebody.

And forget about taking her to instance, I don't want the aggro radius of my pet to be an extra burden to my group. Furthermore, I don't want to be a hunter without a pet because that will gimp my dmg and not be as helpful.

My question to the dev team is there any plans to help me with this situation? High lvl hunter, low lvl pet = problem soloing.

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  • Eredar
  • 1. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 10:58:54 AM PDT
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bump for hunters who want pet variety
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  • 2. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:01:49 AM PDT
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I'm currently lvl 70 and I want to lvl up my newly tamed lion: The Rake. At 70, I'm going to have to melee a great deal to bring this kitty where she can claw somebody.

And forget about taking her to instance, I don't want the aggro radius of my pet to be an extra burden to my group. Furthermore, I don't want to be a hunter without a pet because that will gimp my dmg and not be as helpful.

My question to the dev team is there any plans to help me with this situation? High lvl hunter, low lvl pet = problem soloing.




I was under the impression that the aggro radius for all pets, regardless of level, were the same.

Is this not true?

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  • 3. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:03:30 AM PDT
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I have the Rake. Tamed him when I was level 12.

You miss the point that the only way now to have a "unique" pet is to tame a low level one that doesn't have a skin at higher levels.

Go tame some vanilla cat in Blade's Edge and leave me my unique pet. Blizz better not change this.
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  • 4. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:05:13 AM PDT
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So, you opted out of the pet when you had the chance to level him by your side, and now the Devs MUST help you?

I tamed Bangalash when I was 56, and for a loooong time I had to help him melee down mobs, now he's 61 and my hunter is 63, It's still a work in progress, but you pay the price for not choosing wisely.

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  • 5. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:06:58 AM PDT
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Your pet's aggro radius in instances won't be an issue. On my hunter, I leveled up the pink flamingo (which starts at like level 8 or so) almost entirely in instances, and it never once aggroed anything unexpectedly.
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  • Eredar
  • 6. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:07:43 AM PDT
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Your pet's aggro radius in instances won't be an issue. On my hunter, I leveled up the pink flamingo (which starts at like level 8 or so) almost entirely in instances, and it never once aggroed anything unexpectedly.


How long did it took you to do so?

And it went from lvl 8 to what lvl? A variance of 20 or so lvls I can bare, but from 8 to 70... might as well lvl up an alt.

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  • Shu'halo
  • 7. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:09:42 AM PDT
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So, you opted out of the pet when you had the chance to level him by your side, and now the Devs MUST help you?

I tamed Bangalash when I was 56, and for a loooong time I had to help him melee down mobs, now he's 61 and my hunter is 63, It's still a work in progress, but you pay the price for not choosing wisely.


I can see your point. I don't see why they can't make it a bit easier though if you ever get bored and want a new pet. It wouldn't harm anything if tamed pets assumed the hunter level or a level lower of the hunter. I have 3 pets with my hunter, all his level or closer, so no problems there. I have had them for a long time though and occasionally feel like something different. I don't want to level a pet up 20 levels though.


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We're trying to give everyone a turn at overpowered. I think we may be changing the word overpowered and getting it nerfed. It's just used way too much on the forums

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  • 8. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:10:13 AM PDT
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How long did it took you to do so?

And it went from lvl 8 to what lvl? A variance of 20 or so lvls I can bare, but from 8 to 70... might as well lvl up an alt.


Pet aggro radius is based off of the owners' radius, as far as I know unless its changed in the past year or so.

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  • 9. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:10:36 AM PDT
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I agree with the OP. Automatic levels might be a bit too much, but I dont see anything wrong with a little help.
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  • Shu'halo
  • 10. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:11:05 AM PDT
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How long did it took you to do so?

And it went from lvl 8 to what lvl? A variance of 20 or so lvls I can bare, but from 8 to 70... might as well lvl up an alt.


I can't think of many pets you would have to tame with that big of a gap. You should be able to find a higher level of the pet you want to close that gap a bit.


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We're trying to give everyone a turn at overpowered. I think we may be changing the word overpowered and getting it nerfed. It's just used way too much on the forums

Neth~
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  • 11. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:13:13 AM PDT
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I'm currently lvl 70 and I want to lvl up my newly tamed lion: The Rake. At 70, I'm going to have to melee a great deal to bring this kitty where she can claw somebody.

And forget about taking her to instance, I don't want the aggro radius of my pet to be an extra burden to my group. Furthermore, I don't want to be a hunter without a pet because that will gimp my dmg and not be as helpful.

My question to the dev team is there any plans to help me with this situation? High lvl hunter, low lvl pet = problem soloing.




I agree that pets do not level fast enough. While I don't want pets to level instantly like lock demons, we shouldn't have to play for days to get a pet ten levels below us up to our level.

I got my current pet when it was 23 and I was 48. That was a nightmare. While it shouldn't be a cakewalk to do something like that, it shouldn't seem almost impossible while doing it.

If pets got exp from quest turn-ins and extra exp from rested bonus it would probably be ok. Problem is that exp from quest turn-ins can be abused.

Maybe they should increase the amount of exp pets get. No, they really should increase pet exp gain. Now that I think about it, I use only one pet and when I level he's usually less than half way though it's level. I think when we have a pet our level it should be getting enough exp that it levels just about the same time we do.

Another idea is to have pets get more exp as their loyalty goes up. I dunno. Leveling pets shouldn't suck so hard.

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  • Eredar
  • 12. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:13:42 AM PDT
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I can't think of many pets you would have to tame with that big of a gap. You should be able to find a higher level of the pet you want to close that gap a bit.


If you look at petopia's site there are some other pets with slight variance..For example a wolf that will bark for you if you click on it. But hes lvl 34 and as a lvl 70, if I want to get him up to my lvl, its almost like lvl up another alt.

I think the xp gain is still too slow.
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  • 13. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:15:19 AM PDT
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They should make it work similar to the way mercs leveled up in Diablo2: the bigger the level difference the more xp they gained, much like how leveling a weapon skill is when picking up a new weapon type.
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  • 14. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:16:32 AM PDT
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It takes quite a while, but I did much of it at level 60 in the old world instances before TBC came out. I was getting 2-3 levels on an UD Strat run in the 30s if I recall. When TBC came out I had it into the mid 40s, and it actually went fairly quickly up to 60 doing it in Ramparts and BF with my hunter in the low 60s still. Probably about 3 levels per run still, but at this point there is more XP to gain per level than the lower levels. It seemed to go faster in the TBC stuff, I would guess the since players typically get about 2x the XP from BC mobs, it probably spills over to pets too.

One thing to remember is that the XP gain seems to come from how close the mob is in level to you, not your pet. IE, a level 40 pet will not get any experience from it's level 70 master killing a level 40 mob.

All in all it's a pretty long haul no matter what, but if you like instances and can find groups without too much trouble, instancing with the pet on passive is the way to go. Just be prepared to explain that your level 30 pet has the same aggro radius as you and is not going to aggro the whole instance no matter what someone thinks.
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  • 15. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:18:43 AM PDT
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I can't think of many pets you would have to tame with that big of a gap. You should be able to find a higher level of the pet you want to close that gap a bit.


I started at that level because there is only one tallstrider in the game with the pink skin and I wanted a unique pet. However I have seen a couple other hunters with it as well.
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  • 16. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:19:58 AM PDT
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We have plans to adjust how quickly a hunter's pet will level if there's a large gap between it and the hunter's level. However, it's still just a plan and not something we've implemented and thus are not ready to discuss it.

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  • Eredar
  • 17. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:20:26 AM PDT
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They should make it work similar to the way mercs leveled up in Diablo2: the bigger the level difference the more xp they gained, much like how leveling a weapon skill is when picking up a new weapon type.



You know, you bring up the issue of lvling up a newly weapon type and the wielder could lvl it up within a single sitting to a point where its simi useful.

If our pets are used to hold aggro (while soloing) why are hunters being denied of this basic ability? There should be an easier way to lvl up a low lvl pet.

Currently lvling up a low lvl pet is way too painful.
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  • 18. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:22:07 AM PDT
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We have plans to adjust how quickly a hunter's pet will level if there's a large gap between it and the hunter's level. However, it's still just a plan and not something we've implemented and thus are not ready to discuss it.


At least you guys know about it. And knowing is half the battle. ^_^

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  • 19. Re: Low lvl pet. high lvl hunter = problem he   09/13/2007 11:22:12 AM PDT
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For example a wolf that will bark for you if you click on it. But hes lvl 34


Wait, what? What wolf is this?

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