deadly weapons seem to be mysteriously absent from the list. not that its a huge deal but...people that only pvp are expected to use crafted epic + blues until they get furious weapons...? not gettin it. with ulduar comin, you think it'd be ok for at least hateful weapons to come out...

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Again, by fixing stupid, retarded, out-of-control mana regen. My mana regen with my water shield on and the mana totem down is just insane when I compare it to my priest pre-wotlk and I'm nowhere NEAR geared.

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Sorry, that would have massive PvE impact. Try again.

lets just drastically change arena every season maybe one of these times we'll get it right

This sounds like a good step in encouraging more people to start arena, but WHERE are the PvP weapons for the the low rated crowd?

That was one of the main problems of S5 - if you didn't PvE you couldn't compete at all!

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U and everyone who doesn't like arenas are bad.


U can't win because u are bad, u don't get any arena items because u are bad, and arena is the only thing that can push wow to another level of gaming, transforming it into an E-sport.

More fame, more sponsors, free publicity. That is E-sport. That is what blizz should br and IS interested in.

If u don't like arena (lolnoob) go to another game or be satisfied by playing pro-onehandrequired PvE.

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Um, you are not alowed to call other players bad if you are on a 3v3 team with a DK and a Holy Pally and your team rank is >1800

Second, saying if you don't like arena youa re a noob. That is ignorant and only shows the narrowness of your thought. Not everyone has Epeen issues that they need to address by stopming all over other people.

Third, Arena is a minigame, within the real game of World of Warcraft. If Blizz realy wanted to make Arena a new "Pro-sport" they would have a; released it much earlier, and b: there would already be sponsors for the "Sport" (there have been 5 seasons of it already, most new sports after 5 public seasons have sponsors). If they are trying to make it a sport they are trying to make it Arena football (and where is that now?)

And finaly, if Raiding is so "pro-onehandrequired" easy, then where is your Twilight Vanquisher title? Or even the achievement for downing Sarth with even one drake up?

I played Seasons 1 thru 4 and didn't play Season 5 at all once I found out that they weren't going to give players any way to get a weapon with resilience on it unless they were a 2k rated player. I thought maybe Blizzard would fix things in Season 6 since arena participation is down 60% but now that I see that they are starting teams with a 0 rating removing all the Deadly weapons and once again making it so you have to be an amazing arena player 1850/2200 to have ANY weapon with resilience on it.

Yeah I'm done with arena for season 6 as well probably for good Blizzard obviously has no idea which way to go with arena since it's gotten progressively worse since Season 3 and they won't do anything with battlegrounds.

It's a lost cause.

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I added this to the original post, but to ensure everybody sees it:
In order to make joining teams later in the season a little easier for players, the system will now be setup so if a player joins a team that has a team rating of 1000 or higher, the player’s personal rating will start off at 1000 instead of 0.

To answer some players’ questions:
-Only the current arena season’s weapons (furious) will be available. Deadly weapons will be removed when Arena Season 6 starts.
-The first tier furious weapons will be equivalent to heroic Ulduar weapons and the second tier furious weapons will match heroic hard mode Ulduar weapons.

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So I guess I should go start pveing for a weapon?

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I added this to the original post, but to ensure everybody sees it:
In order to make joining teams later in the season a little easier for players, the system will now be setup so if a player joins a team that has a team rating of 1000 or higher, the player’s personal rating will start off at 1000 instead of 0.

To answer some players’ questions:
-Only the current arena season’s weapons (furious) will be available. Deadly weapons will be removed when Arena Season 6 starts.
-The first tier furious weapons will be equivalent to heroic Ulduar weapons and the second tier furious weapons will match heroic hard mode Ulduar weapons.

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No news here my previous comment above yours still stands and your arena participation will continue to drop in Season 6 enjoy...

Is the Hateful gear going to be purchased through honor?

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I added this to the original post, but to ensure everybody sees it:
In order to make joining teams later in the season a little easier for players, the system will now be setup so if a player joins a team that has a team rating of 1000 or higher, the player’s personal rating will start off at 1000 instead of 0.

To answer some players’ questions:
-Only the current arena season’s weapons (furious) will be available. Deadly weapons will be removed when Arena Season 6 starts.
-The first tier furious weapons will be equivalent to heroic Ulduar weapons and the second tier furious weapons will match heroic hard mode Ulduar weapons.

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Do you have any information to share about Battleground changes? What plans do you have in store for those who like to participate in Battlegrounds? What about turning in marks for experience? Any updates on that issue? Do you have any updates on making Battlegrounds a compelling source of competitiion with modest rewards?

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-Only the current arena season’s weapons (furious) will be available. Deadly weapons will be removed when Arena Season 6 starts.
-The first tier furious weapons will be equivalent to heroic Ulduar weapons and the second tier furious weapons will match heroic hard mode Ulduar weapons.

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Yeah pretty sure Im done with this game then. It's the final nail in the coffin for me; having to pve for weapons, rolling against pugs, guildies, just to compete in arena is just a ludicrious design flaw. Not even blue weapons are available for honor so the message is sleep through pve or play with no weapon!

It's not hard blizzard, you even the playing field for arena by allowing players to at least have a shot at equal gear and give the top achievers something to brag about. [Mounts, pets...whatever]
I play for pvp, not to be forced into pve; thus my money is going elsewhere.

Will the Hateful gear be as ridiculous honor-wise as the Savage gear (e.g. 60,000 honor)? If so, any plans on raising the honor cap?

Also, any info on whether Savage will still be bought with Emblems of Heroism, or if Hateful will be downgraded to Heroism while Deadly moves to Valor emblems?

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thus my money is going elsewhere.

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I agree. They have till the 10th to do something good otherwise i'm going to start demoing other games. I'm not even going to waste time leveling to cap with the amount of crap they have been shoveling on me since I hit 70.

You don't want to make the game fun for me then I'll give my moneys to someone who will.

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Another thing to keep in mind is that until you start to get close to your team's matchmaking rating, you will be gaining around 20 or more points in a win and zero or nearly zero in a loss. So players will make steady progress through games played until they near their team's matchmaking rating.

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What's the reasoning behind not providing introductory pvp weapons? It really forces pvpers to do PvE, which is something I thought you were trying to avoid. It probably also makes arenas/pvp a lot less more desirable to most players, whose biggest interest is weapons.

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Another thing to keep in mind is that until you start to get close to your team's matchmaking rating, you will be gaining around 20 or more points in a win and zero or nearly zero in a loss. So players will make steady progress through games played until they near their team's matchmaking rating.

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To translate all this system:
1. You need 50 WINSjust to get to 1000
2. 65 WINS to start getting some gear (deadly)

Basically what the new system fixes is to make average players to play a lot of games so top of the pyramid can farm their points. It's true that after a long journey (if a 50-50% ratio that means 130 games) you will start getting the needed rating to get 1st piece of Deadly gear.

TDLR: We will give you wellfare epics only after you get farmed into oblivion :)

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I added this to the original post, but to ensure everybody sees it:
In order to make joining teams later in the season a little easier for players, the system will now be setup so if a player joins a team that has a team rating of 1000 or higher, the player’s personal rating will start off at 1000 instead of 0.

To answer some players’ questions:
-Only the current arena season’s weapons (furious) will be available. Deadly weapons will be removed when Arena Season 6 starts.
-The first tier furious weapons will be equivalent to heroic Ulduar weapons and the second tier furious weapons will match heroic hard mode Ulduar weapons.

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Huh?

Season 4 people could buy Season 2 stuff for Honor. This gave people with no previous arena exp a way to gear up in acceptable gear for a starter. That included weapons. Weapons are a HUGE deal for mele classes especially and not granting entry level players access to any kind of weapon is well....wierd.

Please dont forget the Status Symbol effect of Arena Gear. Currently Shoulders require the highest Rating. So 3 weeks into season 6 when a LARGE population of arena contestants us running around with S5 Deadly shoulders its gonna be a little demeening to those of us that earn'd them. The Season 5 shoulders (for ret pallies anyway) stink. I really just bought them because the required the highest rating.

So your making a change kinda mid stride here to make weapons the new status symbol? Meh..Season 5 weapons are all being replaced with weapons from kel in Naxx. I guess the new arena weapons being on par with Hard Mode Heroic Mode stuff will make them desirable enough though.

Just my 2 cents.....but there sould be some weapons available through PvP for beginers. Blacksmithing weapons are just going to keep getting less and less desireable as the seasons progress, and making 2 season old weapons available for beginers at least gave them something that was good enought to learn with.