Does anybody know if Algalon "the Raid Destroyer" is going to be required for the Realm First achievement. I would hope that it is so that people aren't just running through the easy mode the first week just to get the achievement plus you haven't really "cleared" Ulduar until you beat all the bosses, even the optional one.

This might affect whether or not we go for hard mode achievements in week one after release.

Additionally, any plans for rewards for Realm First Ulduar Clear? A pretty drake, a vanity pet or even a unique title? A pint sized Titan companion would be reward enough for a first clear. Sucks if your not in the raid at the time though.

I think the Ulduar achievements are going in with the next PTR build, so you'll have your answer today or tomorrow.

I'm led to believe that you have to do a number of hard mode things to unlock Algalon, that's just hearsay though.

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Does anybody know if Algalon "the Raid Destroyer" is going to be required for the Realm First achievement. I would hope that it is so that people aren't just running through the easy mode the first week just to get the achievement plus you haven't really "cleared" Ulduar until you beat all the bosses, even the optional one.

This might affect whether or not we go for hard mode achievements in week one after release.

Additionally, any plans for rewards for Realm First Ulduar Clear? A pretty drake, a vanity pet or even a unique title? A pint sized Titan companion would be reward enough for a first clear. Sucks if your not in the raid at the time though.

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Please please please have Algalon be required for the First clear achivement.

And from what I understand you need to down Mimiron, Freya, Thorim, and Hodir in hard mode to unlock Algalon.

It was also my understanding that you had to do those 4 bosses on Hard Mode to complete a quest that when you turn it in will unlock a doorway to Algalon's chamber. Not sure if Hard Mode Yogg or any other bosses will be required to unlock him.

I'm also assuming that you would have to be present for ALL bosses to qualify for Realm First, meaning that if you get subbed out for someone else during a certain encounter you don't get the achievement. Really can't wait to see how things will work out.

This would make my year. No more guilds racing 20 hours the day the patch hits. Would make the Feat of Strength actually worthy.

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It was also my understanding that you had to do those 4 bosses on Hard Mode to complete a quest that when you turn it in will unlock a doorway to Algalon's chamber. Not sure if Hard Mode Yogg or any other bosses will be required to unlock him.

I'm also assuming that you would have to be present for ALL bosses to qualify for Realm First, meaning that if you get subbed out for someone else during a certain encounter you don't get the achievement. Really can't wait to see how things will work out.

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why would they change how the server first achievements work? You could have not shown up to any of the prior bosses, got subbed into KT, and got the achievement and title.

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This would make my year. No more guilds racing 20 hours the day the patch hits. Would make the Feat of Strength actually worthy.

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Same here. That's why I am curious. Right now the only thing holding us back from beating our Alliance counterpart to the achievement is the fact that their raid time is earlier. They beat us to H-OS3D, but we beat them to N-OS3D - so that is why I think we are evenly matched. If Ulduar just needs to be completed on easy mode it would basically just be a matter of getting enough people on to start the raid. Completing it with at least some of the hard modes being a requirement would be a different story.

I guess basically we just have to wait for the achievements to be available on the PTR and look for Alganor on the list.

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Same here. That's why I am curious. Right now the only thing holding us back from beating our Alliance counterpart to the achievement is the fact that their raid time is earlier. They beat us to H-OS3D, but we beat them to N-OS3D - so that is why I think we are evenly matched. If Ulduar just needs to be completed on easy mode it would basically just be a matter of getting enough people on to start the raid. Completing it with at least some of the hard modes being a requirement would be a different story.

I guess basically we just have to wait for the achievements to be available on the PTR and look for Alganor on the list.

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All the achievements are up on wotlkwiki.info and mmo-champ. No Feats of Strength for Ulduar were datamined. Hmm..

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All the achievements are up on wotlkwiki.info and mmo-champ. No Feats of Strength for Ulduar were datamined. Hmm..

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Just saw that too. A lot of those posted seem to be just placeholders anyway. Unless Ignis really only does take 2 seconds to kill.

And I know it's still early but it's kind of hard to determine what the "hard mode" achievement is that will get you Best in Slot loot. Like the ones where "kill BadGuyX last", "kill BadGuyY last", "kill BadGuyZ last" - which one gets you more/higher iLvl loot?

Hopefully more information will be released when we get closer to release date.

/twiddlethumbs

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Just saw that too. A lot of those posted seem to be just placeholders anyway. Unless Ignis really only does take 2 seconds to kill.

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No, he does.

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The only realm first achievements/titles will be from:

Yogg-Saron 10 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 10 man

Yogg-Saron 25 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 25 man

These will be separate achievements (not linked to each other).

Good luck!

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The only realm first achievements/titles will be from:

Yogg-Saron 10 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 10 man

Yogg-Saron 25 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 25 man

These will be separate achievements (not linked to each other).

Good luck!

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Any comments on why you'd add Undying/Immortal achievements to a zone that has a majority of bosses with hard modes? Does it not limit your encounter design as well, re: Anetheron, Azgalor, Teron type fights? Yes, I do find the Undying/Immortal achievements more annoying than challenging, but I was hoping they were a 'quick fix' to make Naxxrammas more appealing to the uber-core guilds. Seems illogical and purely bad design to keep em in new raid zones.

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Undying and Immortal for Ulduar are not linked to the meta.

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<3

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Are you clearing the immortal/undying title we have now come patch like you do with gladiator title for the new season?