It is logical. Therefore it shall be ignored. As there is no room for logic in the World of Warcraft.

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I know you're joking, but this probably really is an issue. Getting new spells and ranks as you level is part of what makes leveling worth it. They could take every single spell in the game and make it single rank scaling spell, and leveling a new char wouldn't be as rewarding when you've got 20 levels between a new spell.

That said, either make the mage foods give back a lot more (and find an way to nerf it in arenas), or give the food a % return and limit them by levels (not a great choice since you're still not really getting anything new, just a new ico).

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speaks the truth.

believe it or not, there are often more considerations to a seemingly "easy fix" for an annoyance.

percentage mana return from drink is too strong in the arena. yes yes, blah blah, you all hate arenas, but as blue has said, "it's one game."

think of it though. level1 mage gets "WATER" and "TOAST"... strudel is so titillating comparatively

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speaks the truth.

believe it or not, there are often more considerations to a seemingly "easy fix" for an annoyance.

percentage mana return from drink is too strong in the arena. yes yes, blah blah, you all hate arenas, but as blue has said, "it's one game."

think of it though. level1 mage gets "WATER" and "TOAST"... strudel is so titillating comparatively

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Only make max level food/water/strudels % based.
Don't allow mages to cast tables in arena (isn't this already the case? I don't PvP).

There's already special arena food and water. That can be balanced separately from PvE food/water.

Is there still a problem?

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Only make max level food/water/strudels % based.
Don't allow mages to cast tables in arena (isn't this already the case? I don't PvP).

There's already special arena food and water. That can be balanced separately from PvE food/water.

Is there still a problem?

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yes, if you are doing a percentage of base or total as food return

ret paladin drinks and is full in 2 ticks with current water
holy paladin drinks for 45 seconds to become full

water changes

ret paladin drinks for 8 ticks for same previous amount
holy paladin drinks for 8 ticks and is full

>> arena implication would be that a holy who sneaks a drink gains much more "potential energy" than someone with a lower pool (priest, for example). therefore an imbalance inherent to the mechanic of drinking

sure you could separate "real world" water from "arena water" -- but, is this really such a big deal that it warrants attention anyways?

Pleaaasse buff it.
Pleaaase.
:<

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We will likely buff the struddle. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

We might not end up buffing the PvP water since that has different balance implications, but we'll see.

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Hooray for new strudel!

Have you thought of doing a licensing deal with Cinnabon? ^_^

Thank god. Hopefully to something like 20,000 over 30 seconds.

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Hooray for new strudel!

Have you thought of doing a licensing deal with Cinnabon? ^_^

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I support this idea.

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But think of the Mage out rage! They couldn't be given a new food/drink spell at each expansion level.

We'd drown in their, "why don't I get a new rank/type of biscuit" tears!

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I love getting new ranks of spells, but with food/drink it's always been an "about damn time" situation. I agree with the better strudel course of action.

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We will likely buff the struddle. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

We might not end up buffing the PvP water since that has different balance implications, but we'll see.

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I still have the Winter Veil Eggnog in my bags that I hoard up and try to use sparingly just because it restores a % of mana.

Couldn't all drinks but PvP drinks get this buff?

Seeing as how the PvP water would become trivial sometime around season 6 or 7 as well.

agreed. I dont drink often now but thats due to OO5SR regen being enough to fill me back up between pulls. the nerf wont hurt me much for fights as I rairely had time to stand back and regen anyway but it will hurt my downtime. better water to regen when I have to sit and drink will be very nice.

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I still have the Winter Veil Eggnog in my bags that I hoard up and try to use sparingly just because it restores a % of mana.

Couldn't all drinks but PvP drinks get this buff?

Seeing as how the PvP water would become trivial sometime around season 6 or 7 as well.

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The only problem with that is then you'd be stuck with that one rank of water/food pretty much forever, which is a bit dull.

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Raid buffed, I'm at a 27.7K mana pool. When I drink it takes 2 waters to replenish even while I'm getting my current max OO5SR.

Considering I'll be drinking more often and my OO5SR nerf won't help drinking time a as much, can we please get a buff on water to keep raids moving along?

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This isnt meant to derail your post or provide troll criticism...but you're sitting at about 1200 int and 600ish spirit. I recognize the replenishment benefits but.....if you even that out to 900/900 or even 1000/800 you'll see your standard regen go up significantly, which will hold a new relevance in a few weeks. I think int stacking these days is kind of like the atkins diet, its all the rave...but not necessarily the best idea ever.


sqrt(int*spirit*const)

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The only problem with that is then you'd be stuck with that one rank of water/food pretty much forever, which is a bit dull.

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You can have it restore different %s.

Like rank 1 could restore 0.2%. Rank 2 could be 0.4%

Mana strudels could be at around 4% or something.

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This isnt meant to derail your post or provide troll criticism...but you're sitting at about 1200 int and 600ish spirit. I recognize the replenishment benefits but.....if you even that out to 900/900 or even 1000/800 you'll see your standard regen go up significantly, which will hold a new relevance in a few weeks. I think int stacking these days is kind of like the atkins diet, its all the rave...but not necessary the best idea ever.


sqrt(int*spirit*const)

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Umm... she's also Discipline, which traditionally spends very little time out of 5 second rule, and therefore gets very little from spirit. INT is also increased by 15% in her build and also benefits rapture mana refund.

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Umm... she's also Discipline, which traditionally spends very little time out of 5 second rule, and therefore gets very little from spirit. INT is also increased by 15% in her build and also benefits rapture mana refund.

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Oh, i apologize, i was speaking with a 3.1 mindset. Where rapture doesnt quite have that kind of benefit and the fsr dynamics dont really matter anymore.

hitting 28k mana raid buffed, i have to have like two-three strudles after a wipe, i feel like a tank : /

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We will likely buff the struddle. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

We might not end up buffing the PvP water since that has different balance implications, but we'll see.

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Buff the pvp water too. Just give it a longer duration? So same amount of mana over time. But lasts longer.

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Q u o t e:
We will likely buff the struddle. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

We might not end up buffing the PvP water since that has different balance implications, but we'll see.

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Can it be blueberry?

I like blueberry.