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  • 420. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:37:45 PM PST
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Okay so the world isn't ending, but is it intended behaviour - to need to run back through cleared dungeons then to a flight master?

Some dungeons have a quick exit, some don't. I can accept having to run to a flight master and fly... but will at least the dungeons without a quick exit get changed?


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  • 421. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:38:07 PM PST
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*WOW has a great deal of travel involved

Many other mmo's realized that people didn't want to spend their free time picking their nose while their character flies around, blizzard hasn't realized this yet. Wow might be your first mmo, and thats fine, but don't pigeonhole the entire genre just because wow is this way. The first mainstream/retail mmo allowed you to teleport anywhere in the world, any time you wanted, no cooldown and no restrictions. And it worked just fine and dandy.


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  • 423. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:38:44 PM PST
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  • 424. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:39:03 PM PST
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-tinfoil hat conspiracy-

So i'm trying to think of a reason why there isn't a quicker transit system than a 1hour cooldown for getting back to Dal or your hearth area on your own..
in the case of Dal (where i believe most people are set).. I think I have an answer.. hear me out.

What's everybody doing these days? farming the pants off of the 10 and 25 man raid stuff.. how much does that put back into the economy? not much but the occasional BoE epic.
Dailies? maybe a green item drops once in a while -depending on daily-, but you DE it or don't bother and just vendor it. Where's the people spending money and getting stuff into the AH? there doesnt seem to be to me. Everybody leveled up insanely quick, everyone can and does run raids or heroics.. there just isnt much to spend money on or reason to farm mobs (remember farming for old world recipes?)

so what do you do to stimulate the WoW economy? you take away a convenient method of transportation that surely is a bug, but dear god, it only makes people happy and doesnt hurt the game.
They maybe buy a 5k ring (that's the price right?) and then boom.. back to farming for some extra gold now that they don't have any extra laying around.

-tinfoil hat conspiracy-


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  • 425. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:39:46 PM PST
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If you're not gonna do anything about the hearthstone cooldown, can you at least do something about flight path speed? It's not so bad in Outland and Northrend, because all the zones you need are close together. But it's terrible in old world, especially once you start getting quests that send you across the continent, or to the other continent, like the Noggenfogger quest chain. This is the true source of irritation when it comes to leveling in the old world.

It doesn't even have to be anything drastic. Could just be a stacking speed buff that applies every 30 seconds or so while on a flight path. It will preserve the sense of a large world while not making flying so tedious.
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  • 426. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:40:04 PM PST
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I will tell you what, guys. Like I said earlier, I'll bring this up with the designers. Though the hearthstone is reasonable, since many of you have become used to "ghetto hearth" style travel, it may be deemed an appropriate change.

I can make no promises.
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  • 429. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:40:47 PM PST
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  • 430. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:40:53 PM PST
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People will whine about anything. Everyone wants things instant so they can whine about having nothing to do.

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  • 431. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:40:58 PM PST
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[quote]I will tell you what, guys. Like I said earlier, I'll bring this up with the designers. Though the hearthstone is reasonable, since many of you have become used to "ghetto hearth" style travel, it may be deemed an appropriate change.

I think it should stay the same, personally.
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  • 432. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:42:10 PM PST
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I will tell you what, guys. Like I said earlier, I'll bring this up with the designers. Though the hearthstone is reasonable, since many of you have become used to "ghetto hearth" style travel, it may be deemed an appropriate change.

I can make no promises.


thank you very much, and once again sorry :(
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  • 433. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:42:34 PM PST
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:) nerf flights
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  • 434. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:46:01 PM PST
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thank you very much, and once again sorry :(


There's no need to be sorry, honestly. This is a discussion forum for the game, and you guys aren't always going to agree with one and other, and I'm not always going to agree with you. That doesn't mean I won't present your feedback, nor does it mean we can't love each other. :D
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  • 435. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:47:44 PM PST
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If you have to remove ghetto hearth:

(a) Make all instances have an easy way out from the final boss
(b) Fix flightpoints so they aren't some sort of scenic route


If I go to Caverns of Time and have to run all the way back out to gadgetzan and then fly to Org, thats quite a time commitment. I may very well be better off waiting 10 or 15 minutes for my hearth to come back up. And if i'm waiting around for my hearth constantly, i will simply stop playing outside of Northrend where at least my flying mount works.

If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.


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  • 437. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:48:26 PM PST
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There's no need to be sorry, honestly. This is a discussion forum for the game, and you guys aren't always going to agree with one and other, and I'm not always going to agree with you. That doesn't mean I won't present your feedback, nor does it mean we can't love each other. :D


That's all I care about, is that a sensible idea that's been debated thoroughly be considered. Thank you for the time and consideration you've taken in this matter. I would like to ask that this thread be locked as such, if it's not too much trouble? The topic has run it's course and you've given your reply of seeking the appropriate channels, so I don't think it would serve any further purpose to keep it up.
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  • 438. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:48:45 PM PST
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I say make the scrolls of recall usable by anyone... give inscribers something more to sell. If a hearth cool down were only 30 minutes though, that would make the scrolls practically worthless, even to inscribers themselves.

Doctors can be frustrating. You wait a month-and-a-half for an appointment, and he says, "I wish you'd come to me sooner."
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  • 439. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:48:48 PM PST
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Alright, all -- we're going to make the cooldown on hearthstones 30 minutes when 3.1.0 releases. Enjoy your sweet victory.

Thanks to those who provided feedback constructively.
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