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  • Malfurion
  • 380. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:51:06 PM PST
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443184729&sid=1

This is based on what this thread came down to. This would fix a good amount of woes with the Hearthstone cooldown :)
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  • 381. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:55:52 PM PST
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I think it's worth noting that with many games on one's computer or one's handheld gaming system, an entire gaming session might consist of the 10-20 minutes WoW devs consider reasonable to get from one part of WoW to another

Of course WoW is better than most MMORPGs, but that's pretty similar to being the top endgame raiding guild on a low population server
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  • 382. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:56:10 PM PST
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And you're a mage, why in the world are you complaining about a hearthstone?



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  • 383. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:56:34 PM PST
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I remember a time before Ghetto hearthing. I remember that you had bind stones. I remember that if you died, say, drowned yourself in the barrens of TB ponds, you'd port back to your bind. I remember those ponds being FULL of corpses. So full, some people could not walk by them without lagging out.

The only things about the hearth timer that bother me is, if I go to an Auction house and someone wants to go on a run. I usually hearth back. Yes, I could wait for the stone, so could everyone else. I'm done with the dungeon before my hearth is up because the dungeons ARE very short. The other time I'd use it is the holiday events. trick or treat once a hour. V-day, once a hour. If Blizz were to consider a shorter time on it, we'd appreciate it.

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  • Malfurion
  • 384. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:57:17 PM PST
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I think it's worth noting that with many games on one's computer or one's handheld gaming system, an entire gaming session might consist of the 10-20 minutes WoW devs consider reasonable to get from one part of WoW to another

Of course WoW is better than most MMORPGs, but that's pretty similar to being the top endgame raiding guild on a low population server


very good point :)

also

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443184729&sid=1

its to add an ability to portal out of every CoT not just CoS :)
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  • Spirestone
  • 385. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:58:53 PM PST
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ya, use astrall recall. much lower CD. I would recommend it's use 4 times for every hearth...

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  • 386. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 04:59:40 PM PST
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I'm being honest and leveling with everyone -- using a bit of humor, that's constructive. If you require a more direct response, then here you go. Hearthstone cooldown will remain one hour. Perhaps this will change in the future, but no plans to do at this time.

One hour is very reasonable, and there are other means available to get from point A to B.


1hr is a long time when all you need to do is go to IF and pick up enchanting mats.
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  • Dawnbringer
  • 387. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:00:04 PM PST
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Two points:

1. The developers have stated in the past that they want to decrease the amount of time to level from 1-80. Decreasing the cooldown on hearthstones helps.

2. Summoning stones at many of the early level dungeons only work if you fall within the strict level range. If any of your party is not within that range, you've got to wait as hearth or take a boat/zep to their destination if they are on the other side of the world.
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  • 388. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:02:20 PM PST
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And the flight paths were longer. Believe it or not the old world paths have been "optimised".



Doesn't anyone else remember having to fly in stages... you'd go to the next closet FP, then take your choices from there.


All you new folks... you know when the bird dips and money leaves your pocket on kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms? we old folks used to actually have to Land and get on another bird for that leg... there were no connecting flights. You think it takes long to fly from darn to to gadg now? BWHAHAHAH


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  • 389. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:02:32 PM PST
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Because we play other characters douchebag.

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  • 390. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:07:20 PM PST
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To be fair, there also weren't one way portals to major cities from places like Dalaran.

To be fair, there were less people playing back then per realm, meaning less potential to find a mage port.

To be fair, you can still still get from a major city to Dalaran via convential methods.

To be fair, there is more QQ on hearthstone cooldowns in this thread then there were back in those days over the course of a year.

To be fair, my mom says hi.



To be fair, this is unprofessional and not constructive in anyway. I wish we could expect more from blizzard employees but more often than not these are the types of responses they give their player base. sad.
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  • 391. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:09:04 PM PST
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To be fair, there were less people playing back then per realm, meaning less potential to find a mage port.


That argument is a bit of a fallacy. Blizzard has always had a target for realm population (at least you guys said so) so new players go spread around to low-pop servers and new ones. The population didn't increases on EVERY realm. Some have always been busy. I'm sure it changed on several realms but not to such an extent.

That said, I mostly agree with you, Eyonix. I don't think a 45/50min HS would hurt, but the 30 mins asked here are ludicrous.
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  • 392. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:11:01 PM PST
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To be fair, you also didn't make us go to old content in order to get anything of value done. This is a quality of life change, not a big problem Eyonix.

To be fair, maybe you shouldn't mock your customer base. That up there was pretty immature and rude.



To be fair, maybe you should realize that most people that post on these forums are whiners that will quite literally cry about anything because they think the customer is always right.

To be fair, the customer is hardly ever right. Most of the time they are completely wrong or try and find loopholes to get their way (ghetto hearth?).

Can't tell you how many system admins I've had to talk through the simplest procedure that they screwed up to begin with.

To be fair, maybe you should get a sense of humor and move on now that Blizz has said numerous times hearthstone cooldowns aren't changing.




And to add, I do plenty of things in the Azeroth. I've even used Dalaran as a quick movement from one continent to the other on occasion. Not often though since us druids get a port to Kalimdor whenever we want (gotta love the moonglade port)

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  • 393. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:11:05 PM PST
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very good point :)

also

http://forum--------

its to add an ability to portal out of every CoT not just CoS :)


Please stop promoting that post

25% of the posts I've seen in this thread have been you, bumping that post about Chromie. A lot of the rest of it has been a nonstop flame war
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  • Dentarg
  • 394. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:13:08 PM PST
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  • 395. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:13:18 PM PST
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To be fair, you also didn't make us go to old content in order to get anything of value done. This is a quality of life change, not a big problem Eyonix.

To be fair, maybe you shouldn't mock your customer base. That up there was pretty immature and rude.


I'm not attempting to offend or mock anyone. For years, I've made every attempt to review player feedback and understand where someone's coming from when they have a concern, even when they are emotionally driven and haven't thought things through. I will do this, even when I personally don't agree with the concern.

I will do this even when the concern barely resembles anything reasonable.

The complaints concerning the hearthstone cooldown, is really pushing limits and to be blunt reads as "QQ". Again, I'm not trying to offend, I'm just being honest. This doesn't for a moment mean that I won't bring it up to the game designers.

It's my job to provide them with every major topic, despite my own feelings, and despite how well I can accurately predict what their response will be.

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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 396. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:14:59 PM PST
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I'd rather that the Hearthstone become an ability on our General Tab in the Spellbook than an item in our backpack. Do the right thing and open an inventory slot.

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  • 397. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:15:09 PM PST
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think about it.
excessive flights = time.
waiting for hearth cd = more time.
time = money.

i wonder how much money blizz has made from hearth cooldown and flight times.

just think about if u could cut out all your flight times alone in your whole wow carrer... u would have something like an extra month of playtime(made up, could be more or less, no idea) and got to your max level quicker. or what have you.

generally speaking...

someone do some math...

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  • Dark Iron
  • 398. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:16:14 PM PST
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This wouldn't be as much of a problem if you would just have auction houses and class trainers in dalaran instead of forcing us to go to old-world capitals for that.

Dual-spec will at least make the class trainer part easier, though.

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  • 399. Re: Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.   02/26/2009 05:17:50 PM PST
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I'm not attempting to offend or mock anyone. For years, I've made every attempt to review player feedback and understand where someone's coming from when they have a concern, even when they are emotionally driven and haven't thought things through. I will do this, even when I personally don't agree with the concern.

I will do this when the concern barely resembles anything reasonable.

The complaints concerning the hearthstone cooldown, is really pushing limits and to be blunt reads as "QQ". Again, I'm not trying to offend, I'm just being honest. This doesn't for a moment mean that I won't bring it up to the game designers.

It's my job to provide them with every major topic, despite my own feelings, and despite how well I can accurately predict what their response will be.


While I understand what your saying, the question is why should we have to travel more than absolutely necessary? It certainly is not enjoyable being forced to do so. Its not game breaking. All it does is cut down on the amount of time people spend getting from where they are to where they want to be.

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