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well that is 7 minutes i would rather be killing boars instead of watching the game play for me.

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Yet not once did you say yet that you hate watching the game play for you every time you take a flight path while levelling. Pot, meet kettle again.

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well that is 7 minutes i would rather be killing boars instead of watching the game play for me.

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Hop on that flying mount and fly for yourself, then. If it's epic flier, you could probly get from NS to SMV faster on your own anyway.

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I can easily "say" i have never done something. My argument still stands I spec hearth dont like the spec why the hell should i stay the same spec for an hour or 30 minutes of not playing so i can respec???

Which you have completely ignored 3 times already. People have to go to a main city for a reason what ever the hell the reason might be we should be able to access it easily. If i wanted to go to the city and type /highfive to a guildy i should be able to in under 5 minutes if i wanted. I shouldnt have to take 20 minutes to get to the main city and then 20 minutes back.




maybe you should read my posts then douche. about 2 pages or so back i said id rather kill boars for 20 minutes and have it port me to dalaran then sit on a flight path.

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Then you need to buy Dual Spec if you're that inconsistent about specs, quite honestly. Keep the one you like as the main spec, and put the alternative ones you want to try out as the secondary, you can manage time, and save money by switching on the fly. Gosh I love new features. I shouldn't have to give extra attention to a matter that is already being taken care of in the same patch.

It doesn't take 20 minutes, so that's an inaccurate comparison by and large. When you have an accurate one, we can break it down.

The last part, no. You would hate it if for any period of time you're not killing stuff that you get insta-hearthed, if that's what you're implying. That means more travel time than you would have if you originally went from zone to zone while levelling. I love bringing the point of "no complaint about it while levelling" up because it forces you to try to argue on a slippery slope, it's an arguement you've lost the moment you decided to try and fight it.

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still absolutely does not prove that you have never ghetto hearthed or cleverly used game mechanics that wasnt the direct intention of use.

If you wouldnt complain one bit why are you here complaining that your fellow peers would like a change in an out dated mechanic. Because you are full of #!##ing %#*%.

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Outdated in your opinion. Which you are entitled to, just like everyone else that you feel the need to make personal attacks on is enitledt o as well. Please take note of the bright red text under your posting screen before you post again like that.

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It is kind of weird to hearth to dalaran, fly to star's rest, run heroic AN... and be sitting there at the end going "well guess I'll just stand here for twenty minutes"

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Are you kidding me? Star's Rest is a 2 minute ride away from the Azjol Nerub dungeon entrances! Are you seriously THAT lazy that you can't mount up and fly back to Dalaran? You'll even make it back before your hearthstone cooldown finishes.

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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What this guy said!

I have no idea what the problem was with ghetto hearthing, why did they remove that?

And yeah, half of my time playing is spent traveling. I travel in Wrath more than I have ever done since leveling in vanilla, but there is no end to it. Some of the flights takes more than 6 minutes too, bub.

Let me describe how much time I waste traveling:

My hearth is set to Dalaran and there is a long wait for it to load, and for my character to move when I get there (it sticks). Icecrown daily quests from the horde zeppelin takes a really long time to even reach in the first place, than you have to fly from the top right corner of the map to right-of-center. From there up over a mountain and a gate to the center. You have to fly over the top of the highest mountain range to get to the other hub in the center. Once that is done fly to the top left corner and complete those daily quests.

Take the flight from there back to Dalaran, the long, long one only to be matched by the longer flight back to the zeppelin. Go from the zeppelin alllllll the way back to one of the towns. Sometimes the jc daily sends me somewhere obscure, sometimes not, I will assume not in this example. Once back in Dalarn again, go to grizzly hills. From CH fly up north, where there is hilariously a quest that is tediously slow. Finish the dailys there, and head south- all the way south of CH. You wlll have to make at least 2 full circles of that entire area, then trudge back to CH and fly back to Dalaran.

If you haven't lost your mind yet, try to find an instance group which will take you about an hour or so as a DPS. Then fly out to the instance and hope the group doesn't fail vefore you get there, where you will probably have to fly back to dalaran and start over. Complete the instance, always before the hearth is ready to be used. Trudge back out through the instance, to the nearest town and fly back to Dalaran.

Seriously, 90% of my playtime is spent going from pillar to post and god help you if you forget something or there is even a slight wrinkle in the plan. I avoid ever hearthing yo ORG even though I have two production professions, and having to log out-in is just another headache.

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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to be fair, the world was around half the size back then...

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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The game has changed a lot since then. You have to be all over the world map twice over in a short period of time, optimistically.

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to be fair, the world was around half the size back then...

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and you also spent a lot more time in them.

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to be fair, the world was around half the size back then...

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And the flight paths were longer. Believe it or not the old world paths have been "optimised".

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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im NEVER EVER going to pay for a mage port. you will lose subs if ghetto hearthing is removed

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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Would it be asking too much to have the information shared in this thread:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443184729&sid=1&pageNo=1

Made aware to the developers or whatnot, then? I think it's a fair compromise given how out of the way the Caverns of Time are, though I can understand the arguement of if not.

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You'd think they'd have done that but nope, we're all going to be either sitting in a capital city for 30 minutes or wasting 30 minutes taking the long way back to dalaran. It's always nerf nerf nerf nerf, never buff.

Not like a 30 minute hearthstone would unbalance anything, shamans have a 15minute one.

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The difference that I can see is that Dalaran is much easier to get to than Outlands was. Get stuck in Org when you need to get back to Outland and you're in trouble. Today, just go outside and jump on the Zep.

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You know, there was a time before "ghetto hearthing" was possible and you had to rely on your hearthstone cooldown, or a mage port. I know it's crazy to even try and imagine such harsh living conditions.

I believe in you

I believe in us.

We will survive.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm just glad I've Inscription on this toon so the change should have little if any effect on me.

Oh my god..... 10 minutes is too long to go from SW to Dalaran!!!!!!!!


Seriously, if you can't wait 10 mins, go into windowed mode or use an Ipod


Oh and btw blizz- i deleted my WTF and cache folders like someone told me too, but now i can't get windowed mode. How can i fix this?