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  • 0. GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concerns   02/18/2009 08:22:53 PM PST
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I think you owe it to us at this point to say something about the constant nerfs (some silent, some not-so-silent), the poor itemization (caster weapons best in slot is fail), and let us know what is actually going on and why.

It's reached the point where there are volumes of information on these forums and heaping piles of unanswered questions. Please stop ignoring them and give us an idea of what the deal is.

1) Why is the WF Glyph in its current state, and is going to stay there?

2) Why are we getting Best in Slots results that include caster weapons and don't use Windfury?

3) Why the nerfs to Tremor/Grounding?

4) What are the dev team's intentions for our class? Are we plagued by bugs and poor mechanics for a reason?

5) Will we see Feral Wolves fixed in 3.1?

6) What are the intended effects of Haste in regards to Windfury? Is this being looked into?

Can we get some serious and thoughtful answers that will let us make informed decisions about what to do with our characters and their gear? Could you provide us with some direction and insight regarding the current state and future of our class?

Please....

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  • Dentarg
  • 1. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:26:49 PM PST
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To clarify:


Q u o t e:
2) Why are we getting Best in Slots results that include caster weapons and don't use Windfury?

Torch of holy fire with double flametongue is best in slot for enh shaman because of how FT scales.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dentarg&n=Desp
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  • 2. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:28:46 PM PST
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I think the OP understands the mechanics. He's asking if that's the intended result.

WOTLK Shaman FAQ: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79203452
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  • 3. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:29:24 PM PST
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I am watching this thread closely.

I want to know Blue's thoughts on this matter. These changes are simply catastrophic, and I refuse to stop using WF, and I refuse to use fast caster weapons for Enhancement.

I am not an Elemental Shaman who incidentally gets in to combat to do his thing.

I refuse to take casters' weapons from them. That is why I maintain the slow/slow MH/OH tradition.
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  • 4. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:34:18 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
I think the OP understands the mechanics. He's asking if that's the intended result.


This.

There are enough threads discussing the problems. This one is trying to get answers.

I'm sure I missed some questions though, if ya'll can think of any more ... I can add them to top.
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  • 5. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:45:46 PM PST
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GC, we are begging for answers! PLEASE. We are not going to forget this issue or the disrespectful silence we are getting. Everyday we are going to post and post and post UNTIL we get acknowledgment and some answers.

Again, PLEASE address this thread. :(


I wish to do more violence - Illyria
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  • 6. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:54:30 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
Again, PLEASE address this thread. :(


Personally I don't care what thread he addresses, there's plenty of them out there besides just this one and we need some answers. But thanks for the support on this thread ;)
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  • Smolderthorn
  • 7. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 08:56:17 PM PST
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697595457&sid=1
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  • 9. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 09:14:13 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
Be thankful they don't treat you like rogues and delete any post that's not QQ and actually has well thought out logic.

Nerf rogue posts never get touched though.


Unfortunately that situation is not unique to Rogues :(
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  • 10. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 09:49:49 PM PST
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Posting for great justice to the Shaman community!

(Love you guys)

Stand ready and tall, reflect the Light.
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  • Ursin
  • 11. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 09:58:04 PM PST
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Maybe Earthen Power could reduce the Tremor Totem ticks (0.5 per point?). It's a very deep Enh talent, so Resto won't touch it.

I was under the impression that TT was supposed to be ticking much faster, believing it was an intended buff in WotLK. I still think Grounding should only be destroyed by direct damage, not debuffs or other magic afflictions like Fear or Polymorph.

Now I wonder if the WF glyph can be returned to 25%. Was it still adding 40% bonus AP then, or just when it was nerfed to 22% in the recent patch?
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  • 12. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 10:14:28 PM PST
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Save Windfury! Every Shaman who loves his character and the uniqueness of this class keep this thread alive! Band together and save WF!

Stand ready and tall, reflect the Light.
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  • 13. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 10:28:29 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
Posting for great justice to the Shaman community!

(Love you guys)


Must be on to something if even the DKs are interested.... <3
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  • 15. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 10:34:54 PM PST
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I'll look forward to GC making a thread asking for opinions on how WF should be fixed, and then the thread filling 75 pages in less than a day and GC going, "wtf, I'm not reading all of this!"
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  • 16. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 10:36:08 PM PST
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The nerf to grounding at least had to be done......eating every single passive spell that came it's way was absolutely crazy. You can't be immune to magic CC completely sorry.


You mean like being bubbled? At least Grounding can be gotten rid of.
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  • Blackrock
  • 17. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 10:47:26 PM PST
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The nerf to grounding at least had to be done......eating every single passive spell that came it's way was absolutely crazy. You can't be immune to magic CC completely sorry.


We were only completely immune to magical CC from people who were retarded or at least suffered brain damage in their life.

Try again.
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  • 18. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 11:43:37 PM PST
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I'll look forward to GC making a thread asking for opinions on how WF should be fixed, and then the thread filling 75 pages in less than a day and GC going, "wtf, I'm not reading all of this!"



We shouldn't have to do that, but we might have to----again.

Rouncer has explained in detail how to fix us, till he was blue in the face, in the WIndfury Changes thread.

GC and friends know damn well how to fix Windfury, that question is WILL THEY DO IT?


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  • 19. Re: GC: Acknowledge Enhancement Shaman Concer   02/18/2009 11:53:38 PM PST
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I'll look forward to GC making a thread asking for opinions on how WF should be fixed, and then the thread filling 75 pages in less than a day and GC going, "wtf, I'm not reading all of this!"


This made me belly laugh.



But don't you remember... It was 'our' fault.

We are all inconsiderate pricks for not reading what other shamans read... remember?
just the same as there are 50 pages of spells that warlocks don't use. apparently thay have at least 1000 spells.

Sure, I will 'build a bridge'...... then I will live under it.
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