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  • Mug'thol
  • 0. GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 01:03:09 PM PST
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So right now people are rolling blood for a diseaseless rotation. I dont care what dps this build and rotation can pull, its broken. What if a ret paladin could ignore crusader strike and do more dps? What is fury warriors could take whirlwind off their bars and do more dps?

People who are speccing this seem very desperate to wanna play blood. The fact they WANT to play blood is a good thing. The fact they are willing to play blood and not be able to use all their buttons is just desperate.

Have their been any talks or even any acknowledgement from the developers about fixing this issue? I cant see how the devs want DK's to ignore 2 core abilities.
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  • 1. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:35:17 PM PST
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We're okay with ignoring diseases on very easy targets but you should never feel like you can build a valid spec or rotation around ignoring Icy Touch or Plague Strike. Some of the 3.1 changes should support this a bit more.
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  • Sisters of Elune
  • 3. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:36:17 PM PST
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first?

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  • 4. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:36:53 PM PST
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We're okay with ignoring diseases on very easy targets but you should never feel like you can build a valid spec or rotation around ignoring Icy Touch or Plague Strike. Some of the 3.1 changes should support this a bit more.


Hopefully you're achieving this by making Plague Strike actually fun/interesting to use in PvE, rather than a dreadful bore that you only put up because you're forced to for the sake of your other abilities.

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  • Korgath
  • 5. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:37:04 PM PST
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I'm also disappointed that some of the highest dps specs you can play as a DK right now don't use any diseases. It's fun to stack diseases and "combo" off them. It has been ever since beta. It also helps limit the amount of damage per global cooldown a DK can do.

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  • Cenarion Circle
  • 7. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:37:27 PM PST
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We're okay with ignoring diseases on very easy targets but you should never feel like you can build a valid spec or rotation around ignoring Icy Touch or Plague Strike. Some of the 3.1 changes should support this a bit more.


If anything, doesn't removing the damage from pestilence and giving BB a diseaseless damage component promote diseaseless blood and PSless frost even more?
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  • Sisters of Elune
  • 8. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:40:09 PM PST
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ha beat u to it

hmmm seems like u edited it :)

lol as soon as i saw gc comment i quickly did age thing :)


I read it first and then realized no one commented yet =[

was too slow, grats to you today =]
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  • 9. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:40:32 PM PST
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We're okay with ignoring diseases on very easy targets but you should never feel like you can build a valid spec or rotation around ignoring Icy Touch or Plague Strike. Some of the 3.1 changes should support this a bit more.


So right now people are rolling fury for a battle stance/overpowerless rotation. I don't care what dps this build and rotation can pull, its broken. What if a ret paladin could ignore crusader strike and do more dps?

People who are speccing this seem very desperate to wanna get away from the unintuitive design of battle stance/arms. The fact they WANT to play fury is a good thing. The fact they are willing to play fury just because arms is so clunky is just desperate.

Have their been any talks or even any acknowledgment from the developers about fixing this issue? I cant see how the devs want warriors to ignore a whole stance.


See what I did there? :)

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  • Mal'Ganis
  • 10. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:44:03 PM PST
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I hate the disease mechanic personally. They feel like such an arbitrary part of the class that the only reason you bother with is so your other abilities can be improved. They really should be a larger part of the class. Reduce some of the insane burst DKs are capable of and increase the damage their diseases do.

Not Warlock/Druid (bleed) levels, but something where inbetween awful and op would be nice.

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  • Draka
  • 11. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:44:14 PM PST
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When are death knights going to get the crackly shooting sound on their death coils? from warcraft 2?
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  • 12. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:47:45 PM PST
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When are death knights going to get the crackly shooting sound on their death coils? from warcraft 2?

Warlocks have WC2 death coil - with the vampiric health recovery.
Death knights have WC3 death coil.
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  • Akama
  • 14. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:51:13 PM PST
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Diseaseless DK specs are fail.

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  • 15. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:51:49 PM PST
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Remove the hot removing component on plaguestrike/blood plague and have them buff the damage of their next plague strike by 5% each.
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  • Silvermoon
  • 17. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:54:08 PM PST
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Hopefully you're achieving this by making Plague Strike actually fun/interesting to use in PvE, rather than a dreadful bore that you only put up because you're forced to for the sake of your other abilities.


Kind of like hunter's mark?
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  • 18. Re: GC, about diseaseless dk specs   02/11/2009 02:54:34 PM PST
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Honestly, the best way to help with this, make diseases last longer. Have to reapply them every rotation without the unholy talent is honestly an annoyance and a drop of dps over better dps moves. DoT upkeep was a complaint of warlocks, the same arguement can be made for DK's. They found a way to scale outside of needing to do it though, which is what players do when a system is restrictive and annoying. Without looking at that, next time DK's scale or come up with an odd spec/rotation with no diseases again, they'll flock to it once more.

People are naturally lazy, if they can be competitive doing one less thing, they will.
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