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Nethaera
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  • 0. Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:10:33 AM PST
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One of the new features that will be popping up in the game in the near future is the ability to "dual-spec," or have two separate sets of talents that can be easily switched between as the situation requires. To find out more about this feature, check out our Q&A with Senior Game Designer Greg “Ghostcrawler" Street.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dualspec.html

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  • 1. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:13:01 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
One of the new features that will be popping up in the game in the near future is the ability to "dual-spec," or have two separate sets of talents that can be easily switched between as the situation requires. To find out more about this feature, check out our Q&A with Senior Game Designer Greg “Ghostcrawler" Street.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dualspec.html


I can't wait for this!!

As long as the Lexicons of Power can be found in *every* major city, this is going to be great. If we have to travel back to the old world just to bounce a spec, it's going to be cumbersome.

And holy crap!! My first "First" is to a sticky on the main page....

*Edit for further thought.

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  • 2. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:13:35 AM PST
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First spec?

Nope, it's my second spec.

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  • 3. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:14:25 AM PST
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  • 4. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:14:39 AM PST
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    Nethaera: Who will be able to use it?
    Ghostcrawler: Players who have reached the maximum level will be able to set up dual specs.

    Nethaera: Why do players need to be max level in order to do this?
    Ghostcrawler: We didn’t want to burden lower-level players with extra complexity as they’re working to level up and learn their class. But if the feature proves popular we might consider expanding it.

Tallying up all of my characters, I have over 800 combined levels. I play every class and I have tried nearly every spec. Dual specs was something I was looking forward to for the sake of my alts, the majority of whom are around level 70.

Please reconsider not making this feature available to characters that haven't hit the level cap yet. Being able to tank or heal instances, yet switch to a spec optimal for soloing, would allow players like me to level with much more variety. I'm not a hardcore leveler in the sense that I only do what's optimal for XP -- sometimes I like to do instances to take a break from questing.

You'd also be helping out players who have DPS mains or alts (mages, warlocks, hunters, and rogues) who struggle to find groups because of the lack of tanks and healers while leveling. I have been playing since the open beta; I was completely new to MMOs, and I learned how to instance by joining groups for things like Ragefire Chasm or Shadowfang Keep. There are very few groups now for certain level ranges (for example, apart from Hellfire Ramparts and Blood Furnace, very few people do TBC dungeons on the servers I play on -- which is a shame because they're a step up from Azeroth dungeons in complexity). One of the key reasons for the dearth of groups is that people don't want to step up to fill in the crucial roles of healer or tank, and not being spec'd for those roles is definitely a contributing factor.

It's better to foster instancing skills (like applying and maintaining CC, or assisting the tank) in low level instances than the level cap, where veteran players will have much higher expectations of the DPS that they invite. I wouldn't consider myself to be elitist, but when forming groups for Heroics, I will turn down DPS that appear to be undergeared or clueless. I'm much more likely to invite someone who's new to the game to a lowbie instance (in a group for Dire Maul, the level 60+ hunter who didn't know what Flare was comes to mind).

Don't underestimate your new players. With a push in the right direction, I'm sure that they can catch on quickly. The WoW interface has become much more complex since the game's inception, but by keeping it intuitive, players have adjusted. Consider the pet and mount interface. Players learned how to use their mounts after they disappeared from their bags; word of mouth, and announcements/tips, were sufficient to keep people from running around on foot for the rest of their tenures in WoW.

The TL;DR version:

1. Dual specs before the level cap will foster more instance groups (and use/enjoyment of old content)
2. More groups will allow newer players to learn how to perform in instances
3. New players can be smarter than you guys give them credit for

In conclusion... Won't somebody think of the alts?! =D

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  • 5. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:15:43 AM PST
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Finally!

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  • 6. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:15:45 AM PST
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OMG first page! spending hours on the forum because of cancelled classes has paid off!

Disappointed you have to be 80 though, I was hoping I would be able to level my priest alt as shadow, and switch to holy if i was needed for an instance. I'm not leveling as holy, but I'll always be more likely to get a group if i'm healing.

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  • 7. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:16:13 AM PST
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Very interesting to say the least.

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  • 8. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:16:16 AM PST
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Can't wait for this.
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  • 9. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:16:19 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
One of the new features that will be popping up in the game in the near future is the ability to "dual-spec," or have two separate sets of talents that can be easily switched between as the situation requires. To find out more about this feature, check out our Q&A with Senior Game Designer Greg “Ghostcrawler" Street.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dualspec.html


Link is giving an error page, a 404 basically.

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  • 10. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:16:36 AM PST
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YAY!

Noooooo, error encountered.

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  • 11. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:16:40 AM PST
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nice
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  • 12. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:17:35 AM PST
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Oh my God yes. Gear Management! I don't know what that is but it sounds awesome!

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  • 14. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:18:02 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
  • Nethaera: Is there a way for players to choose their talents without them being saved? Currently, once you spend your talent point, it’s spent unless you pay the respec cost again.

  • Ghostcrawler: With the dual spec feature, we are going to allow players who respec to configure all their talents before they get saved. They will be able to allocate the points, then choose if they want to use that as their spec, rather than needing to carefully diagram out their talents ahead of time. This will allow players a little more freedom when deciding on the talents they want to pick and avoid costly mistakes.


Yay!

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  • 16. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:19:45 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
One of the new features that will be popping up in the game in the near future is the ability to "dual-spec," or have two separate sets of talents that can be easily switched between as the situation requires. To find out more about this feature, check out our Q&A with Senior Game Designer Greg “Ghostcrawler" Street.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dualspec.html


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  • 18. Re: Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler   02/12/2009 10:20:17 AM PST
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Gear Manager?

Nifty.

Though I have to say, tying the "spec-switch" functionality to an Inscription-made Lexicon of Power seems like a pretty big limitation. It seems like you would be forced to bring a Scribe to any progression content to maximize the flexibility of the raid.

So long as the "summonable" Lexicons of Power are not BoP, such that anyone can buy one and use it, I don't see it being a problem.

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