Hunters always get prompt attention.

It's rarely good attention, but hey.

---

Q u o t e:




Ret burst is on the chopping block, hope you reread this paragraph when it's your turn.

---

It's already been our "turn" multiple times. Yes ret burst is very good against players in world pvp and battlegrounds with low resil (anything less than 800). Just like many other damaging classes. No we can't faceroll "burst dps healers" with high amounts of resil and stamina as good as, say, a mutilate rogue. Please, try again.

I'm pretty sick n tired

You guys over nerfed BM, despite so many ppl telling you so

So new patch hit with massive nerfs, I re-spec, re-gem, re-enchant, still farming for hours to make ammo, and still barely competing with other dps classes for top 5

WHY ON EARTH do you think Explosive deserves a nerf over half a dozen other class spec that can easily out dps SV hunters?

SV hunters could not break 6.7K DPS with best in slot gears, JC gems, and all possible buffs on hunter n pet, while several classes already doing over 7K DPS on fights like Patch?

Top 3 on wow meter online dated after 1 Feb (top 2 being all time)

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1566038#damageout
http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1567090#damageout
http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1528898#damageout

WHY???

simply put your claim about an "easy" spec, and years long trail of ill treatment to the hunter class is appaling.

I'm cancelling my subscription and wish the hunters staying to enjoy some other classes, or aspects of game - maybe fishing, not raiding or PvP...

I love how Blizzard decides to selectively and secretly nerf hunters over anything else they could focus their attention on...

meanwhile KS still has the incorrect range to shoot
pets still have major pathing and bugging out issues

and o ya...theres still like 4 classes who can still do 7-8K + dps while now we will be capped around 6K

thanks for making hunters useless once again as a pure dps class (as MM and BM are still terrible, im sure even after their supposed re buffs to BM)

btw, explosive shot was too much burst in arenas? while agree with this point - look at arcane mages, who are capable of double our damage in the same number of GCDs

---

Q u o t e:
We made a hotfix recently to lower the coefficient of Explosive Shot. Sorry we didn't get a chance to announce the change ahead of time. We don't typically do patch notes for hotfixes so we don't have a system in place to always broadcast these before they happen.

We are in the process of making some changes to get damage done more in parity (in PvP and PvE). If there are other classes far ahead of you on the damage meters, chances are good they will see some nerfs to their damage soon too.

Overall, we are trying to make changes in a more timely manner so that players won't feel like they are stuck with a bug or other issue forever. We won't be able to get every issue fixed overnight, but it's a start.

---

I am... shocked. Stealth-nurfed already? With an apology? That was fast! I'm impressed, GC. Though the 'repairs' on BM and MM can't come soon ENOUGH.

---

Q u o t e:
This forum is not an appropriate place for QQ. Several players who came here just to vent or insult Blizzard have been banned.

Please try to not ruin these forums for players who like to communicate in this format. The alternative is to go back to announcements of class changes through patch notes with very little communication in the interim and only one-way communication from the developers.

---

not exactly "qq'ing" here, im just curious how amazingly fast you work to "fix" hunters, yet dps warriors and mages magically avoid getting hit with the nerf bat

Edit: you keep saying "change is coming"...but where is it for the other classes besides hunters and warriors

GC doesnt lie when he actually says he does read every post^^^^^ !!!!!!!!

---

Q u o t e:
This forum is not an appropriate place for QQ. Several players who came here just to vent or insult Blizzard have been banned.

Please try to not ruin these forums for players who like to communicate in this format. The alternative is to go back to announcements of class changes through patch notes with very little communication in the interim and only one-way communication from the developers.

---

It's funny that you are wording it this way, had we not pushed you into a corner with our own data, this nerf would have never been announced in the first place. The "alternative" with class changes through patch notes would be better in this case, since it would actually be announcing the nerfs instead of hiding them like a coward.

---

Q u o t e:
We made a hotfix recently to lower the coefficient of Explosive Shot. Sorry we didn't get a chance to announce the change ahead of time. We don't typically do patch notes for hotfixes so we don't have a system in place to always broadcast these before they happen.

---

So, since you don't typically do patch notes for hotfixes and don't have a system to broadcast them, could you tell us if there was any other change, besides Deep Wounds and Explosive Shots?

---

Q u o t e:
We made a hotfix recently to lower the coefficient of Explosive Shot. Sorry we didn't get a chance to announce the change ahead of time. We don't typically do patch notes for hotfixes so we don't have a system in place to always broadcast these before they happen.

---

Hmm...any chance you can give the details of what this coefficient nerf to Explosive shot was? It'd be nice to at least know the details about the nerf stick jabbed up our bums w/o lube. This will make it easier for the real experts at EJ to calculate how much we'll be relatively behind the already top dps classes on live, hybrids among them, and show you again how much your internal numbers and concept of balance is horrible.

---

Q u o t e:
This forum is not an appropriate place for QQ. Several players who came here just to vent or insult Blizzard have been banned.

Please try to not ruin these forums for players who like to communicate in this format. The alternative is to go back to announcements of class changes through patch notes with very little communication in the interim and only one-way communication from the developers.

---

Wow.

I would have thought that a company that hires people for their creativity would have more than two options: the current system and the system that they used for thre and a half years.

I do hope your comment gets people on point, however (leaving the heads on pikes again it seems).




On another thought... did anyone else think from the title that this was about Camo? I wish it were...

---

Q u o t e:


Soon. I can't tell you a date, but it won't be long.

---

Ok so when does arcane and mut rogues burst get "Hot fixed".

---

Q u o t e:


Soon. I can't tell you a date, but it won't be long.

---

Good to hear. To be honest, my faith in the "system" will be restored if there's a hotfix to fix BM numbers soon. Though, I am starting to hate "soon" just because I'm extremely impatient.


As for all the QQ'ing over the Explosive Shot coefficient nerf, I'm not sure why so many people are surprised. Blizzard already stated SV was doing more damage then they 'wanted" for Hunters. It wasn't like this wasn't anticipated in some form.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's more nerfs in store.

Be at least glad that was the only coefficient change made. It could've been a whole full blown spec nerf like BM got.

holy #*!# you are retarded

---

Q u o t e:


Ok so when does arcane and mut rogues burst get "Hot fixed".

---

Maybe their nerfs will be so severe and painful, mere hotfixes aren't up to the challenge? :)

I am confused by blizzards approach. BM hunters were nerfed hard because they did great damage right from the start, but evened out as more people became geared. Now Survival's ES gets nerfed after what, 2 weeks from the buff? Meanwhile Arcane Mages still have insane burst (and have for a while). Hybrids (DK's and Warriors) are still doing great DPS, yet whenever Hunters receive some form of buff, we get beaten down very fast. This is not qq, but curiosity. Why the constant vigilance on Hunter nerfing, but the blind eye towards Arcane Mages and Rogues? I respect the fact that you have to maintain balance, but was ES (not TNT STUN) really that op?

I play quite casually but I keep on top of the game mechanics so I can keep my dps competitive. I changed to SV quite happily when it was clear that was the optimum dps spec. Couldn't for the life of me work out what had happened to my dps in the last two heroics I ran. Not to say embarrassing as one was a pug and I wouldn't pug a heroic if I didn't think i'd get atleast 1700 over all. Did about 1400 which makes me look a bit of a !*@# in my honest opinion.

So thanks for that. Obviously the nerd rage is quite vitriolic GC but it is hardly surprising.