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  • Shadowmoon
  • 0. DK...immune to Stun?   01/30/2009 11:48:54 PM PST
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I took a long break from wow and just got back; therefore i'm not too familiar with DK's abilities.

Anyway, while I was leveling my rogue today, I saw a DK just grinding mobs by himself. From my personal understanding and from all the QQs I read from this forum, I know rouges are OP right now. So I decided to give it a shot at ganking that DK. (check my armory - standard mut spec)

So Cheap shot >>>> Mut ( 5 points already). I waited few second for the energy to regenerate. But I missed my timing and DK got out of the CS a little early. DK immediately popped something (not sure what). Of course I didn't hesitate on that kidney shot, however IMMUNE popped up on the screen. Even though in the end I killed him but i was not pretty.

Now wth did that DK pop makes my 5 points KS immune?
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  • Doomhammer
  • 1. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/30/2009 11:58:05 PM PST
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I took a long break from wow and just got back; therefore i'm not too familiar with DK's abilities.

Anyway, while I was leveling my rogue today, I saw a DK just grinding mobs by himself. From my personal understanding and from all the QQs I read from this forum, I know rouges are OP right now. So I decided to give it a shot at ganking that DK. (check my armory - standard mut spec)

So Cheap shot >>>> Mut ( 5 points already). I waited few second for the energy to regenerate. But I missed my timing and DK got out of the CS a little early. DK immediately popped something (not sure what). Of course I didn't hesitate on that kidney shot, however IMMUNE popped up on the screen. Even though in the end I killed him but i was not pretty.

Now wth did that DK pop makes my 5 points KS immune?


Stoneform.
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  • 3. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 12:10:24 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
5 points KS
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Holy crap... they are immune to 5 point stuns now?!

Imagine all the people living for today.
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  • 4. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 12:17:41 AM PST
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"OMG the target can fight back! What can i do now! He has control of his character!"

[ Post edited by Ferals ]

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  • 6. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 12:21:34 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Indirect QQ. I love it.


Nrrr not really. You be surpised how many rogues refuse to play with a tanking bear druid. Most stunlocking rogue avoid me.
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  • Lightninghoof
  • 7. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 12:32:16 AM PST
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It's called Icebound Fortitude. It mitigates damage and makes them immune to stuns.

Pretty easy actually, they can't use it WHILE stunned, as long as you don't mistime your KS you should get him fine. When he does burn it, just clos-->vanish and wait it out, return and easy win.

Usually my chain goes like this:

CS-->Mutilate-->KS-->Mutilate-->Mutilate-->Dismantle-->Rupture-->Mutilate

At this point he'll be hurting bad, he'll either burn Icebound Fort to mitigate more damage or wait it out. MOST dks burn it after the KS. Clos his diseases and sprint + vanish. Gotta make sure you do it right because he can Deathgrip you through CLOS and VANISH.

At this point you can just repeat the above and you'll most likely win.

Reopen with more stuns, if he didn't burn Icebound/trinket yet he probably will, then you can throw a blind and start over again. If he burned trinket early, blind and restart.

There are a few variables, such as ghoul stun etc... You can evasion after you CS to avoid it or hell, can even trinket it. Most DKs are unholy so they will have boneshield + icebound fort which mitigates a lot of damage. Save CB evisc for when boneshield + icebound fort is down and he'll eat a load of dmg. If all else fails, you still have an ace up your sleeve with Preparation.

Happy DK Hunting :)

P.S> Oh and DKs are like warriors. It is MUCH easier if you fight them when they have ZERO runic power.

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  • Twisting Nether
  • 8. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:10:16 AM PST
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Make sense in role playing :p, after all DK experienced the true meaning of the pains. Stun to them is like.....tapping them on the shoulder...? :p.

I'm pretty sure I did stunlock some of them...but doesn't seem very long as it should...like if you're using 5 combo points stun it'll be like 2 second. -shrugs- But most of the time they resisted it.


But who care, just tear them up with your strongest attack...shadowdance, killing spree, or Mut.


In role playing sense Rogues should deliver the highest attack damage and speed in the game. After all we're Assassin -Sinister Grins-


-Lick blood off the Daggers-
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  • Shadowmoon
  • 9. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:16:32 AM PST
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thanks. ^^ that's a great strategy for fighting DK. I'll give it a shot next time
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  • Twisting Nether
  • 10. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:29:01 AM PST
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P.S> Oh and DKs are like warriors. It is MUCH easier if you fight them when they have ZERO runic power.[/quote]


Heh, Warriors are my currently favorite class to duel against. I think it cuz they have enough Stamina to withstand some of our deadly attacks -Grins Evily-. Deathknight are about the same, I noticed some who realized how hard we hits, They try to keep their distance and use their ranges spell attack on us till they run out of Runic power and than engage us.
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  • Spirestone
  • 11. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:33:51 AM PST
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I wrote some basic 1v1 strats here, including DK

http://thekingdomofernor.com/serendipity/index.php?/archives/36-Rogue-Comprehensive-PvP-Guide-Part-3-1v1.html

more important information is on "part 1"

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  • 12. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:36:07 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Death knights are pretty much like Warriors that have pets that can stun you, and spells to hit you through dismantle. They also have dots, and all sorts of gay @@@!.


i like it

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  • Spirestone
  • 13. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:37:40 AM PST
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i think the best line in the guide is for 1v1ing hunters:

Q u o t e:
6) Mutilate again and KS
7) Your KS will probably get dodged or parried, or something gay, so just eviscerate

[ Post edited by Ceresi ]


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  • 14. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:39:35 AM PST
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im pretty sure that gay monkey/hawk together aspect alone gives hunters more dodge then my rogue has

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  • Spirestone
  • 15. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:41:34 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
im pretty sure that gay monkey/hawk together aspect alone gives hunters more dodge then my rogue has
they swear they have like 8% dodge, but when i fight hunters in arena, i literally can not hit them at all due to the parry and dodge

was playing double rogue, and against a hunter team, all 4 dismantles, every single stun, and almost every mutilate got dodged/parried

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  • 16. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:43:22 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
they swear they have like 8% dodge, but when i fight hunters in arena, i literally can not hit them at all due to the parry and dodge

was playing double rogue, and against a hunter team, all 4 dismantles, every single stun, and almost every mutilate got dodged/parried


played my rogue like twice in arena at 80, its fun times doing 10 second games

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  • Kirin Tor
  • 17. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:45:14 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
"OMG the target can fight back! What can i do now! He has control of his character!"
We can't hit for 9k 42 energy attacks like Ferals can, so we need stuns to compensate. Damn, we got a rough deal.

Linetrap, Raeli

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ps. you all suck except raelie
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  • Spirestone
  • 18. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:47:49 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
9k 42 energy attack
ambush ;D

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  • 19. Re: DK...immune to Stun?   01/31/2009 01:47:52 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
We can't hit for 12k 42 energy attacks like Ferals can, so we need stuns to compensate. Damn, we got a rough deal.

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