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  • 60. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   01/31/2009 02:51:51 AM PST
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  • 61. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   01/31/2009 01:06:32 PM PST
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  • 62. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   01/31/2009 09:17:31 PM PST
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  • Archimonde
  • 64. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 08:45:00 AM PST
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  • 65. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 09:11:20 AM PST
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It is a bug. The intent is that the Spirit benefit is similar to the other buffs mentioned (and that none of them stack).
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  • 66. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 09:17:37 AM PST
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Good to hear.
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  • Archimonde
  • 67. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 09:19:31 AM PST
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It is a bug. The intent is that the Spirit benefit is similar to the other buffs mentioned (and that none of them stack).


FINALY and thanks for the Final answer I look forward to my raid buff
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  • Shattered Halls
  • 68. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 09:23:13 AM PST
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It is a bug. The intent is that the Spirit benefit is similar to the other buffs mentioned (and that none of them stack).


Speaking if this, can we have a comment on if the SP gained from Sheath of Light not benefiting Sacred Shield is intended or not ?
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  • Lightbringer
  • 69. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 12:02:25 PM PST
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It is a bug. The intent is that the Spirit benefit is similar to the other buffs mentioned (and that none of them stack).


Hmm. Wait. So the intent is that the Spirit -> Spellpower conversion part of Fel Armor won't stack with raidwide spellpower buffs such as flametongue, demonic pact, and imp divine spirit, and totem of wrath?

Isn't that the same as saying, "Warlocks will always receive 100-200 spellpower less benefit from these effects"?

Or did you mean something else?
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  • Archimonde
  • 70. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 12:12:26 PM PST
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Hmm. Wait. So the intent is that the Spirit -> Spellpower conversion part of Fel Armor won't stack with raidwide spellpower buffs such as flametongue, demonic pact, and imp divine spirit, and totem of wrath?

Isn't that the same as saying, "Warlocks will always receive 100-200 spellpower less benefit from these effects"?

Or did you mean something else?


I believe he means the spirit portion should count to pact, but pact shouldn't (and doens't) stack with imp spi/ft/ToW
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  • 71. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/02/2009 12:39:41 PM PST
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It is a bug. The intent is that the Spirit benefit is similar to the other buffs mentioned (and that none of them stack).


Wow, I was actually just ready to give up with this thread. Thanks so much for confirming it's a bug. You didnt provide when we might see a fix for it- honestly I dont mind though. Confirming that it is in fact a bug was my intention of this thread.
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  • 74. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/03/2009 09:14:25 AM PST
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Is this implying that our spell power gained from spirit will not stack with the other spell power buffs such as Flametongue Totem, Totem of Wrath, OR Demonic Pact itself?


Demonic Pact has never stacked with other spell power buffs. The "best" buff over-writes the other.

For Example: Ele shaman puts down ToW for 3% crit and 280 SP. Demonic Pact Lock with 2900 SP after Fel Armor has proc and gives a raid wide 290 SP buff to raid over-writing the ToW SP buff *but* the 3% crit from ToW remains. If Lock has Spirit Buff from other Raid member it does improve his spirit but the spell power gained does not stack to improve his DP buff, it just improves his Life Tap and personal SP power.

The intent iseems to be to let Locks go to higher damage specs when appropriate Hybrids and their buffs are present (Dk/Shammy/Moonkin).

Rather than being a utility component to the Raid we are pure Pew Pew and that is fine by me.

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DoTs are like STDs, just because the person that gave you them dies it doesn't mean your cured.
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  • 75. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/03/2009 12:26:12 PM PST
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I'm still confused. GC, can you clarify what you were referring to when you said, "the spirit benefit"? It could be referring to either Fel Armor's Spirit -> Damage conversion, or to Improved Divine Spirit.

I think you're referring to Divine Spirit, and just reaffirming what you've said before - that you realize it's weak compared to the other spells in its line, but that doesn't make sense in the context of acknowledging the bug addressed here (that Fel Armor's spirit -> damage conversion doesn't increase the spellpower boost of Demonic Pact).

If you were referring to Fel Armor's spirit -> damage conversion when you spoke of "the spirit benefit," in what way is this self only permanent buff similar to raidwide spellpower buffs?
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  • 76. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/03/2009 12:38:30 PM PST
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Since he did confirm this was a bug I'm going to assume that what he meant is this:

ToW/Imp. DS/DP are all designed to not stack with one another. The Spirit -> Spell Power portion of Fel Armor is essentially the same thing as Improved DS so the game mechanics are causing DP and Fel Armor to not function correctly together.
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  • 77. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   02/03/2009 12:43:32 PM PST
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While your at it can we get a comment on Fel Armor agro. It's annoying to the point I would just rather not have the self healing.
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  • 78. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   03/10/2009 05:25:50 AM PDT
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bump for this confirmed bug. hopefully we see it fixed on the ptr soon.
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  • Aman'Thul
  • 79. Re: GC - Demo Warlock - Fel Armor bug?   03/25/2009 01:32:19 AM PDT
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Fixed?
Nope!
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