I am having tremendous problems killing these guys even after nerfs in arenas and BGs. It just seems that I am dismantling and evasioning and CoS and they are still owning me. Should I be killing the UH DKs pet? Should I be Pillar humping and attempting to KIte? any help is appreciated.

i dont know but... hunters seems like a hybrid of a melee hunter and warlock IMO. your opinion might differ.

im not expert in killing them but... these things made it easier for me to win them.


1. dont fight them on their turf (on top of death and decay)
2. you COULD use evasion but they are gayer than warriors... i believe they got 2-3 skills that can't be dodged/parried. its just not the most effective against dks compared to say.. a rogue.
3. if they grab you towards them, gouge em and run and reopen
4. KILL KILL the pets first NO MATTER what, they hurt alot, and if you let the pet stay alive.... *dk summons gargoyles*, you're gona die even faster. (treat them like melee hunters, pet = bad = die first)
5. drop 4-5pt expose armor (this is a given for anyone thats not wearing cloth/leather), you WILL kill them much faster. You will be amazed and thinking you're fighting a rogue xP.
6. clos only to run away to bandage and restart fight.
7. DONT forget to use your blind to restart a fight

again im no expert against them... but these are things i've been doing to do a lil better against them.

If you can, vanish
then stealth away

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If you die, vanish
then ghost away

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fix'd

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If you die, vanish
then ghost away

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They do have the same icon...

*shifty-eyes*

Cheap Shot, maybe a muti/ss/whatever you use, evis, etc. Do what you can to make them use Icebound Fortitude (stun immunity). Vanish and flee when they do that, wait for it to run its course (12-18 seconds), and then restart the fight.

Hopefully you win. If you don't, it was worth a shot.

Fleeing outright also works.

In all seriousness, there's nothing wrong with running away. The rogue class is a class of opportunity.

Why fight a DK one on one or at full health. You can choose when to fight, he cannot.

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Cheap Shot, maybe a muti/ss/whatever you use, evis, etc. Do what you can to make them use Icebound Fortitude (stun immunity). Vanish and flee when they do that, wait for it to run its course (12-18 seconds), and then restart the fight.

Hopefully you win. If you don't, it was worth a shot.

Fleeing outright also works.

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I am not 80 yet on this guy, but I have a geared 80 DK tank. What this guy said is the best way. Get your dots on him, make him pop IF..........vanish and get away until it's gone...........DK dead by your re-open of combat and running stuns as good as you can.

You can research strategies pertaining to Rogue vs. Death Knight and other 1v1 matchups here:

Rogue 1v1 Matchups
http://shadowpanther.net/links.htm#1v1

I don't have an problem killing DK's : /

Only thing i can say is i have slightly better stats than you (more AP, etc..) but then again you have access to 25 man gear I.E. Anarchy.. no one gives me problems as a rogue since i have hit a certain gear level except for prot spec'ed warriors, dk's and pallies.. if they are not prot spec'ed they are easy.

1.) Bleed
2.) Expose armor
3.) Dismantle
4.) Moar bleeds
5.) Vanish
Repeat
Only works against bad DKs. You wont kill a DK that doesn't keyboard turn.

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I don't have an problem killing DK's : /

Only thing i can say is i have slightly better stats than you (more AP, etc..) but then again you have access to 25 man gear I.E. Anarchy.. no one gives me problems as a rogue since i have hit a certain gear level except for prot spec'ed warriors, dk's and pallies.. if they are not prot spec'ed they are easy.

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Geared level 2's own DK's.

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You can choose when to fight, he cannot.

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Well, yeah he can. Death Grip. Nuff said.

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i dont know but... hunters seems like a hybrid of a melee hunter and warlock IMO. your opinion might differ.

im not expert in killing them but... these things made it easier for me to win them.


1. dont fight them on their turf (on top of death and decay)
2. you COULD use evasion but they are gayer than warriors... i believe they got 2-3 skills that can't be dodged/parried. its just not the most effective against dks compared to say.. a rogue.
3. if they grab you towards them, gouge em and run and reopen
4. KILL KILL the pets first NO MATTER what, they hurt alot, and if you let the pet stay alive.... *dk summons gargoyles*, you're gona die even faster. (treat them like melee hunters, pet = bad = die first)
5. drop 4-5pt expose armor (this is a given for anyone thats not wearing cloth/leather), you WILL kill them much faster. You will be amazed and thinking you're fighting a rogue xP.
6. clos only to run away to bandage and restart fight.
7. DONT forget to use your blind to restart a fight

again im no expert against them... but these are things i've been doing to do a lil better against them.

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TY for input couple additional Qs:
1. Isn't Expose Armor a waste on heavily armored targets, i thought it only worked well on clothies because of its design, i have always been using rupture on armored targets for this reason.
2. What about Ice biund fortitude and bone armor?
3. should I kill pet ghoul or just tank it?

PLease share some tips then :)

Geared pvp rogues that know how to use their CDs and are prepared to blow all of them can and should beat frost and blood spec DKs.

Geared pvp rogues that know how to use their CDs and are prepared to blow all of them should expect to lose against a equally geared and competent unholy DK.

BTW ..most unholy pvp DKs are now sporting the glyph which increases ghoul str and stam. My ghoul is at about 20k health. This means (along with ghoul stun) that if you open with a sap on me and try and kill ghoul, you better kill it during the first stun. If you don't, I'll have him stun you and probably be able to open on you while you're out of stealth. If you do kill it, I'll just resummon another one.

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Geared pvp rogues that know how to use their CDs and are prepared to blow all of them can and should beat frost and blood spec DKs.

Geared pvp rogues that know how to use their CDs and are prepared to blow all of them should expect to lose against a equally geared and competent unholy DK.

BTW ..most unholy pvp DKs are now sporting the glyph which increases ghoul str and stam. My ghoul is at about 20k health. This means (along with ghoul stun) that if you open with a sap on me and try and kill ghoul, you better kill it during the first stun. If you don't, I'll have him stun you and probably be able to open on you while you're out of stealth. If you do kill it, I'll just resummon another one.

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ty for the input. Its the unholy DKs i seem to always be up against, i have only seen one frost and i dont think any blood dks in my matches.