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  • 0. New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:19:04 PM PST
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With the release of patch 3.0.8 we have implemented a new matchmaking system for arenas that will improve the overall system and help ensure that players will be matched against others of equal skill. The new matchmaking system uses a rating that you cannot see, and is separate for each of the arena brackets.

The rating changes at the end of each match are affected by this new system, and as it just came out, there may initially be some odd behavior in rating changes, but these will straighten out fairly quickly.

We will monitor this new system and update it as needed to help provide the best experience possible in arena matches.
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  • Lightninghoof
  • 1. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:23:42 PM PST
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So apparently the system has gone all to hell. The general consensus is that Blizzard needs to Rollback everything related to arena, from items bought to achievements/titles earned. And obviously ratings, both PR and team.

Blizzard, revert this horrible change now.

If you don't it will basically turn Season 5 into a total right-off, which will probably mean the death of the arena system as well as any significant participation in it (this is probably what blizzard wants so they can get on to their "rated BG" system).



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On the issue of this "odd behavior ", a friend of mine has played 6 games, won 3 and lost 3, but gone up 33 rating points. Apparently some people have already hit 2050+ thanks to the messed up rating distribution. Is it fair that these people now have access to all the deadly gladiator items even though the rating was achieved due to an error? They could never touch the team for the rest of the season, which means the ratings will Not straighten out...

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  • Lightninghoof
  • 2. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:26:32 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
With the release of patch 3.0.8 we have implemented a new matchmaking system for arenas that will improve the overall system and help ensure that players will be matched against others of equal skill. The new matchmaking system uses a rating that you cannot see, and is separate for each of the arena brackets.

The rating changes at the end of each match are affected by this new system, and as it just came out, there may initially be some odd behavior in rating changes, but these will straighten out fairly quickly.

We will monitor this new system and update it as needed to help provide the best experience possible in arena matches.


The system is behaving completely wrong.

Some teams are stuck winning few if any points on wins, and losing massive amounts on losses - regardless of who they play.

Other teams have it the opposite. They are winning massive points on wins, and losing one or two points on losses.

Please fix this system. It is malfunctioning, and bad teams are elevating through the ranks unfairly.

Reead <WRATH Incarnate>
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Yes, that means I'm a healer.
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  • 3. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:26:44 PM PST
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your change is stupid
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  • 4. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:27:48 PM PST
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worst change ever good job killing the ladder
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  • Altar of Storms
  • 5. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:28:18 PM PST
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Want to explain my 1420 personal, 1803 team and 2242 partner's ratings? Please, go ahead. I want an explaination.
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  • Lightninghoof
  • 6. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:30:54 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
worst change ever good job killing the ladder

Quoted for truth.

The minor hiccup you refer to in your original post is actually making a serious impact on the arena ladder as a whole.

Please fix this.

Reead <WRATH Incarnate>
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  • 7. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:31:53 PM PST
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I thought this was a bug, it seems almost impossible to go down in rating... I only played a few games with the new system and am already at 2,400 rating in 2v2... with a 2500+ personal

Skill > Gear
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  • Lightninghoof
  • 8. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:33:12 PM PST
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I thought this was a bug, it seems almost impossible to go down in rating... I only played a few games with the new system and am already at 2,400 rating in 2v2... with a 2500+ personal


It's impossible for some teams to go down in rating, while for other teams it's impossible to go up.

No one knows why this is happening, but it is definitely happening.

Reead <WRATH Incarnate>
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  • 9. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:33:25 PM PST
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Want to explain my 1420 personal, 1803 team and 2242 partner's ratings? Please, go ahead. I want an explaination.


Sounds like you fail to me, i dont see 2242 or 1803
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  • Ravenholdt
  • 10. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:35:08 PM PST
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Sounds like you fail to me, i dont see 2242 or 1803


The armory is not updated in real time.
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  • 11. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:35:23 PM PST
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One of the worst changes ever implemented. Already seen or heard about teams stuck in 1600-1800 skyrocketing to flawless victor, and other teams hitting 2500+ PR. If this change remains in place, I will no longer pay money to subscribe to this game. Arena was the last enjoyable aspect of this game for me with the difficulty of PvE content being poorly tuned and with the horrendous lag for over 2 weeks already. I did not waste my time grinding to 2100+ to see my efforts surpassed in 2 hours by teams under a broken system.
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  • Altar of Storms
  • 12. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:35:48 PM PST
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Make a character on Altar of Storms... meet me in org or in the starting area. I will show you.
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  • 13. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:40:55 PM PST
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what a joke. u screwed up so instead of admitting you are wrong and fix the problem u feed us this bs. you guys are really bringing in the points with this xpac arent you.
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  • Shadow Council
  • 14. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:41:40 PM PST
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We're 5-0 since the patch. We have gained a total of 9 points. Blue, please tell us if this is functioning as intended.

[ Post edited by Kelci ]

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  • 15. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:41:42 PM PST
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YOUR SYSTEM WAS WORKING FINE.

If this is seriously working as intended, then I'm going to quit this game. Now this is a dumb threat and a million people have made it before, but as someone who has been playing since vanilla beta and has gotten gladiator every season, I cannot possible continue to play a game which has just killed the best thing about it.

Hey, #@*#!@%s, you have bgs for people that suck to grind out welfare epics. Please, god, please let the skilled players compete in SOMETHING. This has to be some kind of joke. I didn't realize April 1st would come so fast this year.
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  • US Event Realm 2
  • 16. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:42:26 PM PST
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Got 2,100 rating in less than an hour from 1700 LOL

If this change is intended, this is the last month I'm paying. Only reason I played this game was for arenas and you guys screwed it up.

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  • Lightninghoof
  • 17. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:42:29 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
One of the worst changes ever implemented. Already seen or heard about teams stuck in 1600-1800 skyrocketing to flawless victor, and other teams hitting 2500+ PR. If this change remains in place, I will no longer pay money to subscribe to this game. Arena was the last enjoyable aspect of this game for me with the difficulty of PvE content being poorly tuned and with the horrendous lag for over 2 weeks already. I did not waste my time grinding to 2100+ to see my efforts surpassed in 2 hours by teams under a broken system.


Teams won't get flawless victor right away, since most of them are going up in rating based on the fact that you can go 5-5 and go up 50 rating...

Wait till the 2000+ bracket is saturated with 1600-1700 rated teams... then people will start getting flawless victor frequently.

Good thing achievements have dates on them... too bad Deadly Shoulders don;t.
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  • 18. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:42:29 PM PST
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This is the worst change imaginable, you just killed arenas.

whys yo face red man you wasted
horrible - protector of the weak
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  • Lightninghoof
  • 19. Re: New Arena Matchmaking System    01/20/2009 08:43:05 PM PST
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3.0.8 has caused more problems than Blizzard realizes, even now. Many of the changes in the patch notes do not exist or are bugged, and serious issues are cropping up everywhere. This arena rating issue is gambreaking. GAMEBREAKING. I don't mean to be alarmist, but it is.

I think when they go home tonight (now) and start playing on their own characters, they'll realize how bad it is and will, hopefully, hotfix it tomorrow. Have faith.

Reead <WRATH Incarnate>
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Yes, that means I'm a healer.
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