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FRAPS or it didn't happen...

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i did it last night.

Forgive me for being late to the party here but what exactly is the problem? No one mentions specifically what the change was and it's not covered in the patch notes either. Did they make it so that only two spark stacks are possible or something?

Edit: Just found out. For anyone who was wondering, the sparks despawn after a certain amount of time now so you can't stack tons of them.

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If you are having trouble with it right now, it will become easier over time as new gear is released in the future.

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Don't worry, if you are having problems with anything in your life, death will come swiftly in ONLy around 80 years of natural causes and then the problem will be solved.



That's a fit all response too.

A better response would have been to say "Yeah, NOW its an achievment"

For anyone doubting, the patch was on January 20th. Wowprogress.com tracks when guilds get a certain achievement.

http://www.wowprogress.com/achievement/1875

Now some people have the achievement as of January 20th, those might have been last minute people who got it before the patch. My guild has it logged on January 21st, after the patch. This doesn't prove that it is possible, but it certainly casts some strong evidence in favor of it, if you are willing to believe a stranger.

Our strategy was to kill sparks after the first vortex, and then DPS Malygos fast enough that we avoided a second Vortex. As new sparks showed up our DK's brought them to the raid and blew them up on us. Before Malygos leaves during Phase 2 we managed to get him to the low 40%s. In Phase 2 we DPS'd the adds from the sparks on the ground, and then hid in the bubble when needed. In Phase 3 we had a lot of good drake riders get high stacks of the DoT on him.

It's a lot more straightforward now.

The old version was a lot harder to do without two death knights and two or three druids. It also greatly favored excluding melee.

Now it's more of a can you get him to transition before the second vortex and have good drake controllers achievement. You can better balance the damage in the second stage since it's longer so the melee favor is greatly reduced. It's actually possible probably possible with any balanced raid composition now, which I'm assuming is why it was changed. Though if you are under geared or are carrying dps you'll probably have to swap out a healer or two.

It might actually be possible to finish the encounter in under 5 minutes if you have excellent drake controllers now that I'm thinking about it. It could be they originally wanted it to be one of the hardest achievements in the game and planned it around a kill sparks immediately approach.

I don't know about 25man (haven't tried it yet) but the 10 man version is definately possible, just look at my achievments.

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Just to clarify this and shoot down the false implication: we believe this is obtainable right now in patch 3.0.8. If you are struggling with it, you could wait until higher level gear is release which should make it much easier. This option is just that, an option, for if you don't want to continue pushing to complete it now. We are not forcing this upon you.

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Ah yeah you are. Considering this is needed for Heroic Glory of the Raider, which is pointless in getting when Ulduar comes out because the drake isn't there. I don't see the point of even getting the achievement when the reward is gone.

You Really, Really Don't Have an Eternity, amirite?

both 10 man and 25 man achievements are possible. I completed the 10 man earlier this raid reset, and a guild on server completed it on 25 man last week. My hunter's guild logged a 6 minute kill last week also (so close >.<).

time your heroism for when the first spark dies and grip the second on top of it. our close attempts we only got 1 vortex.


in p2 grip/shoot down sparks in the air (we saw them up there alot). tell the healers to be pro and let the dps stand in the sparks even if it's not in a bubble.


speaking of healers, tell a few of them to respec. we're running 4 for our 6 min attempts.

dont die in p3.


just comes down to good dps and good execution.

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If you are having trouble with it right now, it will become easier over time as new gear is released in the future.

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Won't matter in the future though. GG blizz removing the mounts for the achievement.

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Then do it now. Not their fault you're bad at the game.

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What if we're not bad at the game, just slow?

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You've had the same number of clears. If you've been failing at achievements, that's bad. If you haven't tried them, you have more than enough time before the patch. If you fail... you see where this is going.

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Yep because everyone who has not accomplished this achievement is bad at the game. Probly should just quit now, and just leave it to real guilds.

Btw, tell giblets he isn't offering what brown can do for me, and that makes me sad.

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Then do it now. Not their fault you're bad at the game.

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I am a fan of your alt. Also my guild hasn't attempted for 6 minutes yet, but with removing 3+ spark stacks does make a large difference in the dmg output as he lifts off, and if their reasoning is due to gear scale and then nerfing it prior to gear doesn't make sense.

Glad you think these through.

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-You don't only have to do achievements for the rewards, you can do them just to complete them, up to you

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With all due respect, you're delusional if you think it's going to be easy to get people to go wipe to try and complete achievements with no reward attached. The achievement collectors and the raiders usually are two seperate groups of people.