240. Non Interactive chat window 01/20/2009 06:11:03 PM PST
hey can someone help me fix to set my chat bar back to interactive when i'm in non interactive it ignores all clicks and i was curious to see what it was and im soo annoyed with the fact that i cant get item links and i know this isn't about the topic but im REALLY desperate
I think there are 3 reasons imo why people are angry about this CD being re-instated.
1) Patch notes claimed the CD WAS indeed removed, effectively causing many DKs to respec frost, and then have to respec back when we realized it didnt work.
2)Frost was going to become a viable aoe tanking spec, but is now back to being way inferior to unholy for anything other than single target tanking, when frost is the "more tank oriented tree"
3)Huge dps numbers for DW spec due to Howling Blast is almost only going to occur on trash or small portions of boss encounters.... if they are still doing huge numbers on single target bosses, seems to me that something else needs to be changed, as HB shouldnt have that big of an affect on single target dps. Granted, it does hit much harder than Obliterate/Frost Strike does with a one handed weapon, but couldnt there be a solution that doesnt make every other frost spec unuseable?
Why does Blizzard have to mess with a tank viable talent to begin with...I genuinely love everything that is frost spec and I am a tank to boot to help with AOE mobs my rotation would look like DND > IT > PS > Pest. > HB > OB > FS then start at IT again with the HB thrown in the mix when ever I wanted to keep threat specially when timed with KM. Why do they have to keep playing with my heart strings?
Also just my two cents last I checked blizzard was not the one playing the game us the subscribers were and if we want to dual wield tank or dps that is our choice.
Now last yes this is prolly a QQ boohoo post I know that so please don't flame its disrespectful and your only showing how much of a child you can be, and next I felt that as a subscriber I deserved the right to express my feelings upon the matter, and I think if Blizz wants to help increase the tanking population they should rethink this whole situation.
To all tanks out there that are Frost with a similar build to mine prolly a minor boost to crits for AOE pulls would be to Macro Death Chill to your HB yes its a 2min cool down but its better than waiting ages for a KM proc to time it with HB that is being cooled for 5 secs... Going to have to take out rune tap from my build to transfer to DC.
Q u o t e: Also just my two cents last I checked blizzard was not the one playing the game us the subscribers were and if we want to dual wield tank or dps that is our choice.
You realize that you are essentially arguing that we should let the players design the game and structure things to let them play however they want. :)
You realize that you are essentially arguing that we should let the players design the game and structure things to let them play however they want. :)
I think what he was really trying to say is Shaman would like an update on Totems, and whatever happened to that explosion of information and frustration.
Q u o t e: I think there are 3 reasons imo why people are angry about this CD being re-instated.
1) Patch notes claimed the CD WAS indeed removed, effectively causing many DKs to respec frost, and then have to respec back when we realized it didnt work.
This is part of the problem
Q u o t e:
2)Frost was going to become a viable aoe tanking spec, but is now back to being way inferior to unholy for anything other than single target tanking, when frost is the "more tank oriented tree"
there are three trees you can tank with, frost is still great on AoE threat, arguably better in some cases because burst threat is sometimes more preferrable to sustained threat
Q u o t e:
3)Huge dps numbers for DW spec due to Howling Blast is almost only going to occur on trash or small portions of boss encounters.... if they are still doing huge numbers on single target bosses, seems to me that something else needs to be changed, as HB shouldnt have that big of an affect on single target dps. Granted, it does hit much harder than Obliterate/Frost Strike does with a one handed weapon, but couldnt there be a solution that doesnt make every other frost spec unuseable?
The KM change was significant enough to gut DW ( given that previously, you'd have about a 17% chance on any given swing to proc KM, down to about 12% dual wielding now, the actual PPM being even lower because it's infeasible for a DW DK to hit the hit cap.... something around 3.5 actual PPM. ) , and because of things like the IT glyph and how hard it hits, Howling blast is a DPS loss in some situations, to the point where howling blast DW builds are being supplanted in favor of icy touch spamming DW builds....
You realize that you are essentially arguing that we should let the players design the game and structure things to let them play however they want. :)
What's wrong with a sandbox type game? See: Little Big Planet ;)
http://wow.warcry.com I'm not the next of them, I am the first of me.
Death Knight: Because a caster/melee hybrid with CC would be overpowered if it was Shaman.
because this game is not World of Deathknights, as much as it seems it is recently. Abilities need to be balanced around a lot of things, more than most players, including myself, realize. Talents and abilities can intermingle in ways that something that can seem very insignificant (1 or 2% more or less on a proc rate for example) can wildly shift numbers on something else. If a CD is needed, it is needed. If there is a way to take it off a CD I'm sure they will implement it.
You realize that you are essentially arguing that we should let the players design the game and structure things to let them play however they want. :)
No, but when you have thousands of testers out there playing the game you designed and all coming to the same conclusion that pretty much blows any internal testing or spreadsheets you have out of the water.
I really hope they don't go through with nerfing HB AoE potential just to remove its cooldown in order to make DW dks happy. HB is an exceptional AoE ability for 2H as well. It costs 2x as many runes as Bloodboil, and deals like 8x more damage. Seeing astronomical numbers when deathchill or KM are up (making it crit on every single target) makes me giggle like a schoolgirl.
5sec CD is quite manageable. It gives you time to use 3 other abilities (BB, Pest, FS, IT, or even Oblit) then only have a 0.5sec wait.
If they ever nerf the AoE to reduce/remove the cooldown, I hope it's through customization (glyphs) and not a forced baseline change that will kill 2H frost as a viable AoE spec.
