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Vux

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Dragonblight

0. Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:12:44 PM PST

After gearing up a bit, I now have 19% Haste from just gear and a Spellstone. With a totem, I have 24% Spell Haste.

Why does my Imp get 0 of that? Any chance haste scaling could be added?

Thank you.

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Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

1. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:16:37 PM PST

Yes, I have tried to post several times that the way pets receive buffs from their masters is inconsistent. We need to take a holistic look at stats, especially those like hit, spell pen and haste. It doesn't make sense, for example, for a pet to receive a percentage of your spell hit. Where are they ever going to get the remainder of their hit from?

Many classes have pets now, and those classes have different stats to provide to those pets. While locks and hunters (and DKs to a lesser extent) are the most dependent on having a good system in place, the whole paradigm just needs to be reexamined. It is on the list.

Ieatzerg

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Area 52

2. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:18:42 PM PST

Good to hear some words of encouragemant. Maybe now I can lvl my lock to 80 =-p

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Brochai

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Zul'jin

4. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:19:59 PM PST

Q u o t e:
especially those like hit, spell pen and haste.

I'm just going to assume you forgot to mention resilience, but meant to.

Downward

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Darrowmere

5. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:20:34 PM PST

inb4shaman derailment

The Warlock is an elegant and precise machine of destruction and control, a mobile siege engine of death.
Patch 2.3 ruined Alterac Valley.

Mnevis

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Cenarius

6. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:21:51 PM PST

Q u o t e:
inb4shaman derailment

Um, Spirit Wolves hit for 300!

/i'llbehereallweek

Tarean

< Limited Edition >

Draka

7. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:22:43 PM PST

Keep it civil ladies.

I'm of the opinion that pets should scale with one stat, spell power. They need defensive scaling, threat scaling (voidwalker, FG) as well as damage scaling.

“When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before.”

“The devil tempts all other men, but idle men tempt the devil”

Shamannigans

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Shadow Council

8. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:22:47 PM PST

Q u o t e:
inb4shaman derailment

I'll try to resist the urge :P

GC mentioned that enhancement spirit wolves will be scaling with our stats next patch, I can't imagine it being too hard to give the same treatment to permanent pets

Vux

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Dragonblight

9. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:28:59 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Yes, I have tried to post several times that the way pets receive buffs from their masters is inconsistent. We need to take a holistic look at stats, especially those like hit, spell pen and haste. It doesn't make sense, for example, for a pet to receive a percentage of your spell hit. Where are they ever going to get the remainder of their hit from?

Many classes have pets now, and those classes have different stats to provide to those pets. While locks and hunters (and DKs to a lesser extent) are the most dependent on having a good system in place, the whole paradigm just needs to be reexamined. It is on the list.

Thank you GC!

Good to know this is in the works!

If it was me, I'd just keep it simple imo. Straight % of all stats go to pet.

I would do 100% for Hit and Haste of course. ;)

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Downward

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Darrowmere

10. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/13/2009 11:31:28 PM PST

Q u o t e:
I would do 100% for Hit and Haste of course. ;)

100% for resilience and a lot more HP than they have now.

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Patch 2.3 ruined Alterac Valley.

Maleficia

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Korgath

11. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:28:01 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Good to hear some words of encouragemant. Maybe now I can lvl my lock to 80 =-p

I wouldn't do that if I were you. Wait till 3.1 changes are announced, then make a decision.

No mercy, no remorse.

Calsifer

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Gorgonnash

12. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:31:45 AM PST

I really like the idea of not letting pets be buffed at all.

Vux

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Dragonblight

13. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:34:55 AM PST

Q u o t e:
I really like the idea of not letting pets be buffed at all.

What

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Umadnoglad

Daggerspine

14. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:40:19 AM PST

Q u o t e:
I really like the idea of not letting pets be buffed at all.

What

Aeyara

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Gorgonnash

15. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:42:00 AM PST

Q u o t e:

What

I mean directly. Haha, that's quite a statement now that I look at it XP

Calsifer of Gorgonnash

Umadnoglad

Daggerspine

16. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:43:30 AM PST

so don't directly buff them, just... buff them?

What

Aeyara

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Gorgonnash

17. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 01:50:07 AM PST

Right now I can put arcane intellect on a pet, and the hunter as wel.

I think they should change the system so that pets get all of their stats from their owners, and are not directly buffable.

Make more sense?

Calsifer of Gorgonnash

Vux

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Dragonblight

18. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 02:02:51 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Right now I can put arcane intellect on a pet, and the hunter as wel.

I think they should change the system so that pets get all of their stats from their owners, and are not directly buffable.

Make more sense?

Ah, yes, that makes sense.

Of course, the coefficient on stat scaling would have to be much higher then.

But it would make buffing less annoying. (Vent: "WAIT don't pull yet, Fluffy needs kings!")

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Umadnoglad

Daggerspine

19. Re: Simple Question for GC 01/14/2009 02:10:23 AM PST

i see, yea if pets get 100% you wouldn't want fort to basically double up on them, you'd want their hp to be at a reasonable place (i.e. not 9k roflwat) without needing x class on your team to put buff on them+master

editing in necessary troll: what moron decided to release the game with 9k hp pets... im glad it's being fixed/ looked at/ w.e, but first time i pulled out felhunter when hitting 80 i noticed it was 9k and facepalmed.

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