Warrior nerfs were just about the last thing I expected to see in the patch notes.


Whats up next?

Deep Wounds, MS, Hamstring?

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Warrior nerfs were just about the last thing I expected to see in the patch notes.


Whats up next?

Deep Wounds, MS, Hamstring?

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deep wounds does need a nerf.

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deep wounds does need a nerf.

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why would it need a nerf? because after 4 years its finally been fixed to work properly?

What warrior nerfs are these?

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Warrior nerfs were just about the last thing I expected to see in the patch notes.


Whats up next?

Deep Wounds, MS, Hamstring?

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I still can't see how they could nerf Arm's when it's ALREADY behind the other two trees! It can't DPS as well as fury, it can't tank as well as Prot, and it can't PvP better than, at this point, I'm guessing either.

GC, please, I usually don't personally ask you questions, but I really want to know why?! Why on earth was this, AND ONLY THIS, the change given to warriors? And of all things, a nerf to the worst of the three specs?

Deep wounds is fine for arms, its fury + DW thats the problem.

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Deep wounds is fine for arms, its fury + DW thats the problem.

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Push deeps wounds down if it's that huge of a issue, people should ask for things to be nerfed as a last resort, ask for buffs in other areas or it to moved away to not allow said issue.

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Push deeps wounds down if it's that huge of a issue, people should ask for things to be nerfed as a last resort, ask for buffs in other areas or it to moved away to not allow said issue.

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DING DING DING, This guy wins.

Such an obvious solution. Swap trauma with deep wounds, that way fury warriors can bring trauma to the raid.

rofl yes lets just remove a 5th of fury warrior dps for the heck of it and replace it with a buff thats already present in the raid from feral druid.

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Push deeps wounds down if it's that huge of a issue, people should ask for things to be nerfed as a last resort, ask for buffs in other areas or it to moved away to not allow said issue.

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blizzard prefers nerfing things to pushing them down farther in trees.

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rofl yes lets just remove a 5th of fury warrior dps for the heck of it and replace it with a buff thats already present in the raid from feral druid.

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Couldn't a feral druid say the same about rampage?

Also, fury warriors do insane damage, why shouldn't it be nerfed?

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rofl yes lets just remove a 5th of fury warrior dps for the heck of it and replace it with a buff thats already present in the raid from feral druid.

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You act like you're doing pisspoor damage. Seriously, you're angry... but calm the hell down.

You are nowhere near being that bad. Next time look to your left and right when you're in a raid and realize there are other players too. You are not scum at the bottom of the DPS barrel.

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Our plan is to make Arms less RNG based, which involves making Sudden Death not so bursty. We also would like to decrease the amount of damage done by Deep Wounds. This should help bring Fury dps down a little (remember they got too small buffs with the TG change and Whirlwhind glyph), but we will need to buff Arms sustained damage accordingly. Slam is one possible candidate.

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I KNEW IT! I knew they were going to do this! They nerfed sudden death and they're going to buff us elsewhere!

GC, thank you for answering my question from the giant warrior forum (I doubt you saw it, so you probably read my mind.)

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Our plan is to make Arms less RNG based, which involves making Sudden Death not so bursty. We also would like to decrease the amount of damage done by Deep Wounds. This should help bring Fury dps down a little (remember they got too small buffs with the TG change and Whirlwhind glyph), but we will need to buff Arms sustained damage accordingly. Slam is one possible candidate.

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Thanks for making me famous, GC.

So slam, eh? Cast time... meh

My opinion is to beef up all warrior strikes... slam is very, very unused by most warriors. Give us options, not just 1 good button to press.

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Couldn't a feral druid say the same about rampage?

Also, fury warriors do insane damage, why shouldn't it be nerfed?

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Um yeah, a feral druid could say the same about rampage except that lotp overrides rampage and is better in every single way possible.......

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You act like you're doing pisspoor damage. Seriously, you're angry... but calm the hell down.

You are nowhere near being that bad. Next time look to your left and right when you're in a raid and realize there are other players too. You are not scum at the bottom of the DPS barrel.

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There is no scum at the bottom of the dps barrel other than elemental shamans. Warriors arent miles ahead of any other class, they are for the most part, completely balanced in PvE. Then you just want to 'delete' a 5th of fury DPS for what reason? Becuase you saw a fury warrior with 11,000 DPS on Thaddius (which is bugged for warriors BTW). Give me a break.

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You act like you're doing pisspoor damage. Seriously, you're angry... but calm the hell down.

You are nowhere near being that bad. Next time look to your left and right when you're in a raid and realize there are other players too. You are not scum at the bottom of the DPS barrel.

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Deep wounds doesn't need to be nerfed, it needs to be moved deeper into arms. Its ESSENTIAL for arms DPS and PVP.

Fury could use a bit less PVE damage TBH.

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Our plan is to make Arms less RNG based, which involves making Sudden Death not so bursty. We also would like to decrease the amount of damage done by Deep Wounds. This should help bring Fury dps down a little (remember they got too small buffs with the TG change and Whirlwhind glyph), but we will need to buff Arms sustained damage accordingly. Slam is one possible candidate.

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Terrific. =D

However, you seem to have forgotten to tell us how you plan to compensate us for that loss of damage. If it goes live like this there will be lots of angry warriors.

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Slam is one possible candidate.

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Except this. This is bad. Unless you make slam instant you're just going to add fuel to our mobility issue fire.

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Q u o t e:
Our plan is to make Arms less RNG based, which involves making Sudden Death not so bursty. We also would like to decrease the amount of damage done by Deep Wounds. This should help bring Fury dps down a little (remember they got too small buffs with the TG change and Whirlwhind glyph), but we will need to buff Arms sustained damage accordingly. Slam is one possible candidate.

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I recommended putting a rage cap on Sudden Death in beta, but also recommended greatly increasing the proc rate if this happened, now Sudden Death is far less damage on a really low proc rate with a cap. It's really been gutted quite a bit. >_<

Cause fury warriors out dpsing pures as a hybrid by large margins is intended and all. If you didn't see a nerf coming you are blind