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Smokelock

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Dethecus

0. Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 12:00:23 PM PST

Does this games balance seriously all come to the head of one person for final desicions.....no council , no group of like minded equally empowered individuals working towards balance for the greater good of the game......you seriously gonna tell me GC is the end all be all of Checks and Balances, because if so that would be a good excuse for how neglected lock pvp is.

"Your wise men dont know how it feels....to be thick as a brick"

Sagart

The Venture Co

1. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 12:03:22 PM PST

I don't know exactly where GC is in the pecking order, but I assume that there is a group of people who discuss the issues and a boss who has final say.

Also, Jethro Tull is lame.

Trams

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Draka

2. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 12:58:33 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Does this games balance seriously all come to the head of one person for final desicions.....no council , no group of like minded equally empowered individuals working towards balance for the greater good of the game......you seriously gonna tell me GC is the end all be all of Checks and Balances, because if so that would be a good excuse for how neglected lock pvp is.

I'm fairly sure I've seen him say that balance issues get a LOT of discussion. I've also seen feedback from these forums influence decisions, so obviously it's not a dictatorship.

Sefire

< Ad Idem >

Dragonmaw

3. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:01:12 PM PST

He's just one guy on a team, he just happens to be the public face atm. I highly doubt anything is his sole decision. He's even made a post called "It's not the Ghostcrawler show" if I remember correctly.

[ Post edited by Sefire ]

Nerf me.

Noxmortis

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Icecrown

4. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:01:50 PM PST

He's just the one dev. brave enough to wade through the ocean of tears to talk to us. He's said before that changes are discussed by groups of individuals.

"Really nothing short of 'here is how we are buffing you' will measurably decrease the number of posts on a topic. :)" - GC

Cfdfsd

Dalaran

5. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:03:02 PM PST

Q u o t e:

I'm fairly sure I've seen him say that balance issues get a LOT of discussion. I've also seen feedback from these forums influence decisions, so obviously it's not a dictatorship.

I've also seen him say "finally something I can work with" so maybe he is the final say person. But whatever. Why does this matter at all? Just play the game and enjoy it for what it is a game. Who cares if a dumbass or a brilliant person makes it as long as you're having fun with it. Blizzard is just hands down awesome with most of their game decision proven by their 11 million subscription to WoW. Does it matter if one person or a group of person makes the decision? It does not as long as the majority of the player is enjoying the game.

Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

6. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:04:01 PM PST

The designers come to a consensus on any change that would be remotely controversial. We also get a lot of input from the rest of the team and the community so we can make informed decisions. If I come up with a stupid idea, someone will call me on it, and they would expect me to do the same. If we come up with a crazy idea, we might talk about it for a little then shake our heads and realize it's crazy. I have never overruled anyone nor have I been overruled. That's just not the way Blizzard works. It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

I have no problem with you blaming me for anything you don't like in the game, but I also want to give credit to the literally hundreds of people that work together to make WoW happen.

Kaylienne

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Dark Iron

7. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:04:35 PM PST

Q u o t e:
He's just one guy on a team, he just happens to be the public face atm. I highly doubt anything is his sole decision. He's even made a post called "It's not the Ghostcrawler show" if I remember correctly.

To bad when your the only public representative it is.

Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Markemp

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Icecrown

8. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:04:39 PM PST

Q u o t e:
People feel empowered to do their jobs.

Don't you mean "Teamwork is everyone doing what I tell them?" ;-)

On the forums, your PvP flag is always on.

Undeadnerf

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Burning Legion

9. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:05:20 PM PST

Buffing locks is always controversial......amirite or what?

-Undeadnerf 80 Warlock -Naturenerf 70 Shaman
-Overnerf 80 Priest -Nerfaritty 70 Mage
-Nerfarella 70 Warrior -Bubblenerf 80 Paladin
-Nerfsledge 80 Druid
-Nerfzilla 70 Rogue

Sigurdur

Proudmoore

10. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:05:36 PM PST

Q u o t e:
The designers come to a consensus on any change that would be remotely controversial. We also get a lot of input from the rest of the team and the community so we can make informed decisions. If I come up with a stupid idea, someone will call me on it, and they would expect me to do the same. If we come up with a crazy idea, we might talk about it for a little then shake our heads and realize it's crazy. I have never overruled anyone nor have I been overruled. That's just not the way Blizzard works. It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

Man that sounds like an awesome place to work.

/envy

Cyani

< The Phoenix >

Kul Tiras

11. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:07:04 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Buffing locks is always controversial......amirite or what?

Nope, just crazy ;D

Skrymir

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Aggramar

12. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:09:13 PM PST

Q u o t e:
The designers come to a consensus on any change that would be remotely controversial. We also get a lot of input from the rest of the team and the community so we can make informed decisions. If I come up with a stupid idea, someone will call me on it, and they would expect me to do the same. If we come up with a crazy idea, we might talk about it for a little then shake our heads and realize it's crazy. I have never overruled anyone nor have I been overruled. That's just not the way Blizzard works. It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

I have no problem with you blaming me for anything you don't like in the game, but I also want to give credit to the literally hundreds of people that work together to make WoW happen.

Good to know Blizz isn't like Initech from Office Space...but which one would be Milton if it were? :P

I dunno. Drinking gin out of a coffee cup just makes me feel old and surly. In a good way.
--GC

Iplaytofail

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Anvilmar

13. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:09:38 PM PST

Kalgan = GC IMO.

12/12 Kara Pre 3.0

Zemluk

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Silvermoon

15. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:11:59 PM PST

Q u o t e:
The designers come to a consensus on any change that would be remotely controversial. We also get a lot of input from the rest of the team and the community so we can make informed decisions. If I come up with a stupid idea, someone will call me on it, and they would expect me to do the same. If we come up with a crazy idea, we might talk about it for a little then shake our heads and realize it's crazy. I have never overruled anyone nor have I been overruled. That's just not the way Blizzard works. It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

I have no problem with you blaming me for anything you don't like in the game, but I also want to give credit to the literally hundreds of people that work together to make WoW happen.

I was gonna say something witty and insightful, but i dont wanna get banned

it's all hunter loot

Valana

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Mug'thol

16. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:12:34 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Does this games balance seriously all come to the head of one person for final desicions.....no council , no group of like minded equally empowered individuals working towards balance for the greater good of the game......you seriously gonna tell me GC is the end all be all of Checks and Balances, because if so that would be a good excuse for how neglected lock pvp is.

Lesson to be learned: in the future when you're leaps and bounds beyond overpowered, don't brag endlessly about how delicious other classes' tears taste, or how your class takes a tremendous amount of skill (when it never did), or how the only reason people can't beat you is they suck at their class. It doesn't feel so good when the tides are turned.

Trust me, I hated it when all the stupid huntards were bragging about demolishing rogues after WoW 1.7. At some point you get karma'd.

"We hate healers. If they come into Arenas they should DIEDIEDIE to any rogue with a green dagger."
- GhostCrawler

Tmf

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Doomhammer

17. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:13:45 PM PST

Q u o t e:
The designers come to a consensus on any change that would be remotely controversial. We also get a lot of input from the rest of the team and the community so we can make informed decisions. If I come up with a stupid idea, someone will call me on it, and they would expect me to do the same. If we come up with a crazy idea, we might talk about it for a little then shake our heads and realize it's crazy. I have never overruled anyone nor have I been overruled. That's just not the way Blizzard works. It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

I have no problem with you blaming me for anything you don't like in the game, but I also want to give credit to the literally hundreds of people that work together to make WoW happen.

Without giving away too much "confidential" info =P could you give us a brief summary of what a normal work day for you entails?

tmf

Bombatta

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Windrunner

18. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:16:32 PM PST

Q u o t e:
It's a pretty happy place. People feel empowered to do their jobs.

Empowered by gin and a stocked tiki bar. ;)

Serrif

< Imperial Redux >

Azjol-Nerub

19. Re: Does the buck stop at Ghostcrawler 01/06/2009 01:16:41 PM PST

I know you guys think lock PVP is ignored. Priests think their PVP is ignored, etc. Yet you have to consider: there are 30 specs out there, PVP, raiding, questing, and 5-mans out there. That means the amount of time they can spend on average considering a single spec's performance in one particular venue is approximately 4 minutes per day out of each of the people on the class balance team. If you expect more than that consistently, then it's just not going to happen.

My point is this: this is a big game, with hundreds of abilities, and thousands of interactions between those abilities that need to be considered. Is WoW perfect? No. Can you have fun playing it? 11 million people seem to think so, and indicate this with their wallets.

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