YOU'RE

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So healing should also be infinitely sustainable?

Yeah, great, so what are these DPS'ers doing if the healer has a friend capable of doing DPS?

Should the people attacking the healer stop attacking the healer? Would that be a smart idea?

Or does the healer not need to fight back and ever lose mana?

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the only healer your talking about right now is a Pally. and yes pallies need to be looked at. But why keep dps the way it is now where unless your a pally you wont survive?

do you arena? do you know how easy it is to kill a healer now a days? GC doesnt.

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Huh? lol? um im not entirely sure what your trying to say but ill try respond.

Some dps will always go after a healer especially if hes beating away at someone and sees there hp shoot back up near 100% in 3 seconds.

If your saying dps would cc the healer? well players cc players of all classes i dont see why healers would form exemption from it.

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What i meant was, in your examples you said the healer was being CC'ed. And what you said was right, healers should die when u interrupt them or cc them while they are trying to heal. Whats not right is when a dps can just sit on a healer and kill him without the aid of any interrupt mechanic. Thats whats wrong. hope i clarified that for you.

I think you're really twisting his words out of context. I'm pretty sure the idea is that a single dpser should be able to beat a single healer, which makes sense.... seeing how one is pure support, and the other is ... not

Why are people so desperate to believe that GC meant a single dpser should be able to kill a healer with mindless damage, when that's clearly not what he meant at all?

Look at his statement in context and it's clear he meant that 2 or more dpsers should be able to brute force a healer down without having to use some ridiculously involved and well timed CC rotation, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

There's a thread on the Healing forums that puts this to rest.

GC basically meant that , with multiple DPS on the healer he should not be able to survive. There should be cases where a healer can tank 2-3 DPS without intervention.

Healers are enormous hypocrites. When people complain about their ability to keep people alive against huge dps, they say "kill the healer noob". When people take their advice and kill the healer, they have a crying fit and post threads saying that it shouldn't be possible to kill the healer.

the amount of fail in this thread is unbelievable.

Listen to what you are saying, and try and understand what the OP is saying.

He simply said:
"A healer should not be able to be killed by a dps without the use of CC or interrupts or stuns."

From what GC said it is implied that we're talking about ONE dps, since ONE should (according to GC) have the option of burning down a healer at will.

Regardless you guys are misinterpreting what the OP is saying and getting on your high horse.

If you agree with what GC said in that sentence than you have no idea what a healer is, and if that were the case healers would disappear from pvp. He implied that healers are even LESS then a dps, since they can't keep themselves alive against a dps, and they can't kill the dps, so what's the damn point of being a healer in the first place?

Stop correcting him with the "YOU'RE" comments, how old are you? You understood what he meant to say, and since this isn't an english essay he has no obligation to be grammatically correct at all times. That comment just tells me you have no life watsoever since, it seems the time to write that comment is, to you, expandable and time spent forthwhile, which only really emphasizes the stamp on your forehead that reads: "I'M A FAT LOSER WITH NOTHING TO DO THAN TROLL THE WOW FORUMS WHILE LIVING IN MY MOM'S BASEMENT".

OH SNAPS

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I made an unclear post that ended up setting a lot of people off. I did not mean dps classes should be able to faceroll healers. I did not mean that one dps should be a match for one healer. I did not mean that CC should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that healing should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that we think healers are finally getting their just deserts in season 5.

The best way I can think to say it is: Burst damage should not dominate Arenas. Crowd control should not dominate Arenas. Healing should not dominate Arenas.

I don't think this is really news to people who have been doing Arenas very long.

Also,

POSTING IN CAPS MAKES MY WORDS IMPORTANT.

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Rock on, Ghostcrawler.

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I made an unclear post that ended up setting a lot of people off. I did not mean dps classes should be able to faceroll healers. I did not mean that one dps should be a match for one healer. I did not mean that CC should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that healing should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that we think healers are finally getting their just deserts in season 5.

The best way I can think to say it is: Burst damage should not dominate Arenas. Crowd control should not dominate Arenas. Healing should not dominate Arenas.

I don't think this is really news to people who have been doing Arenas very long.

Also,

POSTING IN CAPS MAKES MY WORDS IMPORTANT.

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HELL YEA

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Q u o t e:
I made an unclear post that ended up setting a lot of people off. I did not mean dps classes should be able to faceroll healers. I did not mean that one dps should be a match for one healer. I did not mean that CC should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that healing should have no role in Arenas. I did not mean that we think healers are finally getting their just deserts in season 5.

The best way I can think to say it is: Burst damage should not dominate Arenas. Crowd control should not dominate Arenas. Healing should not dominate Arenas.

I don't think this is really news to people who have been doing Arenas very long.

Also,

POSTING IN CAPS MAKES MY WORDS IMPORTANT.

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It would be nice if everything was equal, but right now damage is completely excessive. On a scale of 1-10 (10 being out of control) I would rate the following;
dps 9.8
healing 4
cc (except stuns) 3
mana drains 0

I also think that a healer should be able to live while 2 people beat on him. I feel that classes that offer little in pvp should not be able to kill a healer with pure damage. For example 2 feral druids, the only thing they have is their stun. If two cat druids were dpsing a priest down the priest should be able to outheal the burst and live until the priest is oom.

Two rogues on a priest, the rogues have ms, stuns, interupts, wotf. The rogues should be able to kill the priest but only after the priest has blown his cooldowns like pain supression, and desperate prayer. It is okay for the priest to not be oom when he dies in this situation, but if the priest has say a mage to peel things off him then he should be able to live until he is oom.

I just like to see healers use up all their mana in a fight of mindless pure damage but live a little on the edge when there is cc, silence, stuns.

Just as a note to the OP and people who make similar posts, this is a prime example as to why most people with blue text rarely post. Everyone says they want more blue posts, they want better communication and they want to know what is happening behind the scenes. Unfortunately as soon as they do post a bunch of people crawl out from under rocks to take their words out of context and otherwise use them as "evidence" of some horrible bias against whatever class or spec the poster happens to be.

If I were a mod or a dev, I would post as infrequently as possible. At least for now, GC doesn't seem afraid to do so. Please don't make him regret it by using their posts as propaganda.