Seriously. Is there anything other than a killer DK that can beat a mutilate rogue? Scrub rogues need not answer. If you say ret pally I will laugh at you. Only top rogues need answer.

mages are rough sometimes

Depending on their skill.. FROST mages.

But actually...in a 1v1/duel I haven't had too much trouble beating DK's...I"ve had more trouble from skilled ret paladins than anything really.

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Seriously. Is there anything other than a killer DK that can beat a mutilate rogue? Scrub rogues need not answer. If you say ret pally I will laugh at you. Only top rogues need answer.

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You can beat a ret pally but not a DK? You're playing bad ret pallies and probably bad overall opponents. You're a scrub.

DKs are easy sauce, ret pallies are hard. Feral druids can beat rogues. Frost mages are based on skill. Any good ret pally will trash a rogue.

Gone up against a good frost mage lately?

skilled ret pallies > skilled dks
frost mages pose a threat if they know what they're doing.

Nvm, read your post, im not a top rogue so this post is now null.

Mutilate rogues will win against a ret pally. Skilled mutilate rogues beat ret pallies. This is not a news flash.

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Mutilate rogues will win against a ret pally. Skilled mutilate rogues beat ret pallies. This is not a news flash.

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No. No. No. No.

If they spec into hammer of justice cooldown for 30 seconds + hands of freedom removing stun effects. Lolololol. Nearly impossible to win.

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No. No. No. No.

If they spec into hammer of justice cooldown for 30 seconds + hands of freedom removing stun effects. Lolololol. Nearly impossible to win.

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That's assuming they're skilled though.

In his case though he hasn't fought a good paladin yet apparently.

DK's are fairly easy if your any good...

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CS, Mutilate, Gouge (see if they freedom it). If not, KS and immediately cloak. 99% of them (regardless of skill) will trinket, spin around, and hammer of justice which you will resist. Once they bubble, if you still have either your trinket or cloak up, you win.

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Any GOOD ret pally will never freedom gouge. They'll freedom KS then if you cloak and you resist their HoJ you better vanish soon or else they'll have DoTs on you and make your vanish useless.

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Seriously. Is there anything other than a killer DK that can beat a mutilate rogue? Scrub rogues need not answer. If you say ret pally I will laugh at you. Only top rogues need answer.

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How about you post on your scrub rogue before you make generalizations about what class's rogues can and cant beat.

A good muti rogue opens with CS, KS before you can do anything. Good ret pally freedoms KS and the good rogue blinds him. Good pally trinkets and tries to stun. rogue is either gone or COS. It's all over now as the rogue decides whether to just beat down and reset or reset right away without taking a hit. pally is maybe at half health even with good resil and it's just mop up. If the pally bubbles to heal of goes the rogue runs to reset, if the pally goes to dps, the rogues cos and evasion take care of that. Equally geared it's the rogues fight.

Any skilled hunter owns rogues, especially BM.

thanks lowbie death knight, constructive post.

well apparently they beat DK's as well so it is constructive to know that one class dominates the rest.