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  • Lightbringer
  • 0. 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:27:18 PM PST
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0/32/39

Fast/Fast

Fallen crusader / Razorice

PS IT BS BS HB Dump
PS IT IT IT HB Dump

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http://wowwebstats.com/a6lvaewore5re?s=191059-217878

WWS link, Ghoul and army of the dead are NOT COUNTED in that wws.

Here is a recount screenshot of the accurate number. (no melee reported a combat log so no ghoul)

-Took this up the hall a bit clearing to grobs.

http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=0841&f=wowscrnshot_122808_204233.jpg

Figured i may as well cross post this to get a discussion going, i would like to see other classes brought in line with my own. I don't feel i should be this high as a DK.

-Yes, the recount is accurate. WWS did not include ghoul or army of the dead.
-Yes, ebon plague and crypt fever stacking should be fixed. However, this is about 150 dps at most.
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  • Laughing Skull
  • 1. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:29:21 PM PST
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grats man, you play an op class in pvp and pve, want a cookie or somethin?
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  • 2. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:30:25 PM PST
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Awesome. That's how I was taking my DK. Glad to see it can hold up.

[ Post edited by Aaralyndias ]


http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bonechewer&n=Cherrybomb
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  • Lightbringer
  • 3. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:30:26 PM PST
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grats man, you play an op class in pvp and pve, want a cookie or somethin?


I dont pvp, and yes. Chocolate chip.


perhaps actually read where I'm attempting to bring to light that DK's need to be balanced, or they need to adjust other classes.


Comedy answer: DONT MAKE MAH SLAP U WITH MY MASSIVE E-PEEN GUD SIR.
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  • 4. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:31:26 PM PST
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As of right now DW hybrid is PvE DPS spec, other specs fail in comparison. This will be even more so after HB goes off CD next patch.

GC, please don't turn Death Knights into another Enhance, nerf DW to the ground, that is not how class should be playing.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 5. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:32:30 PM PST
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The cooldown being removed from howling blast solves the most annoying problem about my spec.

When rime procs, i get a free howling blast. However, this leaves me with less runic power (the free one doesnt generate much) and extra runes. right now i do an icy touch/ plague strike right away. Next patch i will get to cast two howling blasts in that situation.

That change, mixed with the amazing new ranged slot items and glyph changes may add about 3-500 dps or so.

also, i'm nowhere near best in slot gear.
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  • 6. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:33:56 PM PST
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Key point:

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THIS CAN BE DONE ONLY WITH DUAL WIELD HYBRID SPEC
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This spec only works because of haste self-buffs and on-hit and on-crit proc abuses that scale out of expected range with raid buffs.

[ Post edited by Graceland ]

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  • 7. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:34:31 PM PST
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As of right now DW hybrid is PvE DPS spec, other specs fail in comparison. This will be even more so after HB goes off CD next patch.

GC, please don't turn Death Knights into another Enhance, nerf DW to the ground, that is not how class should be playing.




Uh, what? Why not? If a DK wants to dual-wield, they should be able to. They should do equally well with 2-handers, but it shouldn't excel to the point that dual-wielding is useless. Adds a bit of variety to the mix.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 8. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:34:41 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
As of right now DW hybrid is PvE DPS spec, other specs fail in comparison. This will be even more so after HB goes off CD next patch.

GC, please don't turn Death Knights into another Enhance, nerf DW to the ground, that is not how class should be playing.





I love dual wield, i would prefer to see both aspects of the class as a viable option. (they are just about on par atm)

Crying for "nerfs" makes you sound like a child. I'd just like to see two handed death knights get thrown a bone.
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  • 9. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:39:12 PM PST
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Uh, what? Why not? If a DK wants to dual-wield, they should be able to. They should do equally well with 2-handers, but it shouldn't excel to the point that dual-wielding is useless. Adds a bit of variety to the mix.


Would it make any sense if mages could dual-wield wands and just wand everything to death due to abusing few talents that proc on *any* hit?

This is not unlike recent Feral and HAT rogue exploits.
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  • 10. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:41:09 PM PST
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Uh, what? Why not? .


Dual wield was put in so DK TANKS have an option of using 2 tanking weapons to make hitting defense cap easier.
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  • 11. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:41:44 PM PST
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This is not unlike recent Feral and HAT rogue exploits.



Your logic is poor. This is quite unlike the HAT bug. If you need an analogy, it's more like the DW arms build pre-wotlk.
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  • Lightbringer
  • 12. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:42:29 PM PST
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Dual wield was put in so DK TANKS have an option of using 2 tanking weapons to make hitting defense cap easier.



No. Just no.

DW tanking is a bad idea, being able to tank with a two hander is a privilege of the class.

I hear less parries is good.
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  • 13. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:43:30 PM PST
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Dual wield was put in so DK TANKS have an option of using 2 tanking weapons to make hitting defense cap easier.
Uh, no.
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  • 14. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:44:08 PM PST
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No, this is more like elemental shamans going down to enhance or holy paladins going down to Ret to grab talents that were never meant for their specs.

HB and FS need to switch places.
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  • 15. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:46:05 PM PST
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No, this is more like elemental shamans going down to enhance or holy paladins going down to Ret to grab talents that were never meant for their specs.

HB and FS need to switch places.


Really, it's not. But as you seem set on this, I'll simply leave you to your delusion.

[ Post edited by Moograine ]

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  • 16. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:49:30 PM PST
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Your logic is poor. This is quite unlike the HAT bug. If you need an analogy, it's more like the DW arms build pre-wotlk.


I really liked DW Arms.

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  • 17. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:50:57 PM PST
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grats man, you play an op class in pvp and pve, want a cookie or somethin?
Says the rogue.
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  • Lightbringer
  • 18. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:51:20 PM PST
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No, this is more like elemental shamans going down to enhance or holy paladins going down to Ret to grab talents that were never meant for their specs.

HB and FS need to switch places.



Still wouldent change things much, 0/20/51 DW has produced a 6100 wws as well.

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  • 19. Re: 6352 patchwerk dps as DW DK 0/32/39   12/29/2008 07:52:29 PM PST
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Big reason I might switch from Hunter to DK if they go through with our nerfs. They're unlikely to nerf the crap out of their new Expansion posterchild and hurt sales.

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