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If swiftmend works on Riptide, it should work on all HoTs.

Renew is similar enough to Rejuvenation in the same way Riptide is similar to Regrowth, why wouldn't it work with Renew also then?

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I think you are missing why this is so funny. It's not supposed to work on riptide. This is likely the side effect of using the regrowth code to create the riptide spell.

A very cynical person would say that this is the type of bug you get when you realize at the last minute that you cannot fix Spirit Link so you have to frantically find another idea to replace it with.

I however know that as programmers there is no reason to reinvent the wheel so copy pasting code and modifying it to make the new spell work is actually good programming practice. You just have to watch out for bugs like this one.

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Someone should test this. Get a ret paladin, get a crit heal, and then try swiftmending.

It shouldn't because it doesn't remove renew, does it?

EDIT: Who's the retard wasting a GCD on Riptide in a raid? =P

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glad you posted on an alt


10mans riptide is still amazing... even in 25man you can use it as a quick patch

I use it on malygos and fights in naxx like sapp when you have to move

Swiftmend can, and has always been able to consume other druid's HoTs.

The fact that they simply copied and pasted regrowth for shamans and made it instant cast is pretty funny though.

Swiftmend probably consumes Riptide because they are both Nature spells (along with Rejuvenation and Regrowth). That's why no one sees Renew get consumed - it's a Holy spell. I'm sure Swiftmend would also consume the Earthliving Weapon proc since it's also Nature-based. I'd say Blizzard overlooked this because Riptide was a rushed 51-point talent resulting from the removal of Spirit Link - they didn't realize that they'd be giving another class a castable nature-based HoT.

This hurts Druids more than Shamans, since Shaman HoTs are just downright bad compared to Druid HoTs. It's enough incentive to avoid casting Swiftmend on someone who has Riptide or an Earthliving proc on them.

What would be REALLY fun is if Chain Heal ate up Regrowth.

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What would be REALLY fun is if Chain Heal ate up Regrowth.

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Oh gosh yes. and 25% increase too! plzplzplz

I have experienced many instances where i am the only resto druid in a raid and switftmend a target and it doesnt consume my hot on the target. I figured it was a bug with the glyph I am not using, but this makes more sense. I wonder if it would also consume the herbalism hot?

Why shouldn't healing classes abilities work with other healing classes in a kind of synergy?

Seems kind of silly that if you have 5 healers, if any share healing on a single target, it's like each healer is healing that target independently. I think it would be cool if healers could make combos with each others abilities to do some amazing effects (With cool visuals as well).

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We do not have reliable reports of Swiftmend consuming Riptide. Can anyone elaborate?

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When Earthliving Weapon has a shorter duration left then a Rejuvenation or Regrowth, it uses the Earthliving to calculate healing. I can't tell if it would eat the Earthliving because I have a Glyph of Swiftmend.

If I have Earthliving up without either Rejuvenation or Regrowth, then I cannot use Swiftmend, the button is greyed out and it says "You cannot do that yet."

*edit*
Further testing with a friend also revealed that RIptide activates the Swiftmend button, but it says "Invalid Target" when you try. With Earthliving and Riptide and no other hots up, I was able to Swiftmend for the ~2800ish I'd expect.

TLDR: Riptide=no Swiftmend, Riptide+Earthliving=Swiftmend from Earthliving.

I was going to say, much more likely it was an Earthliving bug then a Riptide bug, since that is a very random heal.

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Swiftmend can, and has always been able to consume other druid's HoTs.

The fact that they simply copied and pasted regrowth for shamans and made it instant cast is pretty funny though.

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Very true... anoys the heck out of me as for some unknown reason our guild's primary resto druid has forgon this glyph. I've been simi forced to heal due to the fact that I'm good at it and I'm around all the time and were so short on healers. However it anoys me when my rejuves just disapear 3 seconds after I cast them because the other guy just swiftmended it off. I'm feral most of the time but even I drop in a swiftmend glyph when I'm healing.

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I was going to say, much more likely it was an Earthliving bug then a Riptide bug, since that is a very random heal.

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It is both. Riptide enables the Swiftmend button. Swiftmend eats Earthliving.

Neither requires the other for the bugs to happen.

Did some testing:

With both riptide and earthliving up on a target (none of my hots up) the swiftmend consumes the earthliving. Same thing with one of my hots up. Hits for about 2.6k healing.

Note that I dropped my glyph of swiftmend for the purpose of testing

Confirmed :D

Just on that Earthliving Topic,

Does anyone else agree it should stack?, i mean its a 20% proc rate

having it stack would be a tad more bearable, no?

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LOL

The Shaman 51pt talent is so bad it is reducing druid healing...

Somewhere, right now, there's a resto shaman that died a little inside.

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/wave

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LOL

The Shaman 51pt talent is so bad it is reducing druid healing...

Somewhere, right now, there's a resto shaman that died a little inside.

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No, no, now there is a reason to use it. Riptide, as it is now, should be a baseline shaman ability. Talented could be any number of changes. My favorite is no CD, another would be make it heal 3~5 people like now. Until its changed .......