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  • 0. Quest XP to Gold @ 80   12/16/2008 03:18:18 PM PST
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This is not functioning properly, and most of us have done a ton of quests, that we cannot redo to get money for. I can't believe this still is not fixed yet.

Either it's just a graphical disfunction, or it fully isn't working, I haven't checked to see if the low amount of gold that is listed as a reward differs from what we actually get.

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  • 1. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   12/16/2008 03:21:27 PM PST
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How much gold are you expecting to receive, and how much are you getting?

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  • 2. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   12/16/2008 03:53:57 PM PST
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I've been getting plenty of gold from my quests since I turned 80. Don't know what the OP is talking about.
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  • 3. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   12/16/2008 04:45:58 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
How much gold are you expecting to receive, and how much are you getting?


I have been getting 13g for some quests, 5g for others, and 5g for a level 70 daily. IIRC 13g is what we were getting at 70, is that right? I'm assuming there is some conversion for exp to gold, because on wowhead for example, they have a + to gold if 80 under rewards, and it's another 15-20g.

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  • 4. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/06/2009 02:10:08 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
How much gold are you expecting to receive, and how much are you getting?

Before 3.0 (when the level cap was level 70) -- all quests done at the level cap rewarded gold from the conversion of experience to gold, and from the quest coin reward.

Now (when the level cap is 80) -- all quests done at the level cap reward gold from the conversion of experience to gold, but do not give the quest coin reward.

Bumping this with some more info, to hopefully get an official word on whether this is a bug, or an intended change.


Quest example: Battling the Elements - http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12967
-- If you do this quest before level 80, you get 22050 experience and a coin reward of 7 gold 40 silver.
-- If you do this quest at level 80, you get 13 gold 23 silver, as a conversion of the experience to gold. But you do not get the standard quest coin reward. So instead of getting roughly 21 gold from doing the quest, you receive 13.

The same is true for dailies, like Hot and Cold - http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12981
If you do/repeat the daily quest before level 80, you get both experience and a gold reward. If you do/repeat the quest at 80, you only get coins from the experience conversion -- not the standard quest reward.

This is a definite change from how it was when the level cap was 70; at that time, you got the gold from both the experience conversion, and the standard quest coin reward. It would be good to know if this is an intentional change, or a bug.
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  • 5. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/06/2009 10:42:05 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
How much gold are you expecting to receive, and how much are you getting?

Made 80 last night. Continued questing in party with wife's character (Orenna). Noticed the gold rewards for quests seemed lower than they should be given the increase experienced when capped at 70, though I don't know the exact calculation of xp-to-gold conversion. We (Orenna and I) began comparing quest gold rewards and found they were exactly the same, though she was also getting xp. I submitted a GM ticket last night and the response was the generic "delete your WTF, Cache, and Interface folders" then submit another ticket if it doesn't work.

No surprise...it didn't work.

Ok, so the GM wanted details last night and I didn't have details to give him/her. Now I have details. I've listed 3 quests with direct comparisons between Orenna (whom I was partied with), level 79, and Malumsocius (my character), level 80, showing quest, quest giver and location, color of quest in our quest logs, and gold and xp rewards as received.

After making 80 and after rebooting, but before deleting the "holy trinity" of folders:
Quest: "Let Nothing Go To Waste" from Elder Ko'nani in Moa'ki Harbor, Dragonblight
Malumsocius, 80, green: 5g
Orenna, 79 green: 5g, 12200xp

Quest: "Planning for the Future" (Daily) from Trapper Mau'i in Moa'ki Harbor, Dragonblight
Malumsocius, 80, green: 5g
Orenna, 79 green: 5g, 12200xp

After deleting the "holy trinity" of folders:
Quest: "Slay Loguhn" from Elder Ko'nani in Moa'ki Harbor, Dragonblight
Malumsocius, 80, green: 10g60s
Orenna, 79 green: 10g60s, 20500xp

So you can see, though Orenna gets xp and I don't, the quest gold rewards are exactly the same for both standard one-time and daily repeatable quests. When we were capped at 60 and at 70, the gold reward increase from xp-to-gold compensation was substantial and quite noticeable, even for repeatable daily quests such as SSO. Where is it now?

My biggest concern is that WotLK is going on 2 months old and no one's noticed this problem until just now? The GM last night told me that he/she hasn't heard anything about this type of problem yet. So how many 80s are getting gypped out of the rewards, and can this be fixed...soon?

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  • 6. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 01:01:56 AM PST
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Well I just typed out a long post with specific quest details, and when I went to post it asked me to log in again, which then threw it away. Next time I'm copying and pasting first.


Point number 1.

Quest [The Ata'mai Terrace] L70 group 5
Awards 19000 experience, or 11g40s at L70 (BC), but 1g14s at L80.

Weren't experience to gold conversions supposed to use the full experience amount? I seem to remember getting the same amount of gold for a L60 quest at L60 and at L70. That is definitely not the case here.


Point number 2.

Quest [Not Without a Fight!] L72
Awards 20300 experience and 5g at L79, but only 5g at L80.

No bonus gold whatsoever. This quest is even still green at L80.


Point number 3.

Quest [Winds in the Desert] L9
Awards 3s and some experience, and 4s80c at L80.

There is bonus gold here, however small it is.


What is the intended behavior with experience to gold conversion? Isn't it supposed to be on top of the normal gold reward?

If I had known that leveling from L70 to L80 would make me take a 90-100% hit on gold from quest rewards on quests below L80, I would definitely not have upgraded my account immediately.


Edit:

I forgot to mention that I had contacted a GM last week as well, who said that GMs had sent some details on to the dev team who hadn't confirmed whether this was intended behavior or not. The GM advised me to stop turning in quests until the issue had been resolved and intent had been communicated, since there would be no retroactive compensation.

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  • 7. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 01:17:41 AM PST
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i thought it was just a change in mecanics or something. But we weren't informed of this change i don't think

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  • 8. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 03:36:33 AM PST
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Ok, this is highly disturbing, frustrating, annoying, upsetting...oh how many I could add...

The xp-to-gold conversion mechanic is something most veteran WoW players have gotten quite used to and look forward to; a reason, a perk, to make level cap. One of my goals (and I achieved it) was to level in Outland as much as possible so that a minimum of Northrend would finish me off to 80. That way the profit due to the xp-to-gold conversion would be maximized by finishing off Northrend with normal questing and dailies at level cap. I made 77 and was flight-capable prior to entering Northrend and made 80 after clearing Borean Tundra and almost finished with Howling Fjord. Should be payday now.

I doubt I'm the only one to have this objective, but now it's all gone to squat due to the broken game mechanic. I'm no über programmer, but it seems like a relative simple parameter change to set the xp-to-gold conversion subroutine to 80 from 70. That the devs have had since beta to find and fix this problem doesn't help. WotLK is almost 2 months old, but the problem existed prior to that obviously. What's taking so long to fix it?

The GMs have proven to be highly uninformed in this. Reason: I've submitted 2 GM tickets about this, last night/this morning and the day prior. The second GM informed me that they were aware and had submitted a report to the devs about it. The first GM, just a day prior, stated he/she knew nothing about this problem. This is not good.

According to at least this post:
https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12661074755&sid=1
add that players and possibly Blizz personnel (despite no Blue response) were aware of the problem and it's dated a month prior to this thread, and in the Bug Report Forum no less.

How many 80s have gotten their Loremaster of Northrend achievements and have basically been cut out of their share of the profits that we all assumed to be active in-game?

I've tested to see if the mechanic is broken at all, if it's broken just for death knights, or if it's broken for all classes. With myself (80 death knight), a 79 priest, and an 80 paladin, the results are as before. No gold difference to show xp-to-gold is alive and well. These weren't gray quests either, in case you ask.

Some say it's sporadic affecting only some players and/or only some quests. I don't know for sure, but it's broken and needs to be fixed. Devs...where are you?

To read the post above makes me wonder where Blizz's priorities are if a GM can state as follows:

Q u o t e:
I forgot to mention that I had contacted a GM last week as well, who said that GMs had sent some details on to the dev team who hadn't confirmed whether this was intended behavior or not. The GM advised me to stop turning in quests until the issue had been resolved and intent had been communicated, since there would be no retroactive compensation.

If Blizz is concerned at all with customer service and satisfaction, how can a Blizz employee basically state "once you get to 80, stop playing the game" in any way?

WE know it's broken. WE'VE given you the proof, data, whatever you want to call it. WE'RE waiting to play the game that you have informed us would be available. If you were changing the game and removing the mechanic for xp-to-gold conversion, why didn't you inform us? If you knew the game was broken in this way, why haven't you fixed it yet (you can't say you haven't been aware).

As it stand now, I don't see many perks for playing once I hit 80. Unless you're a raider or PvPer, what's the point? With a 20000g mount lingering in Dalaran like a carrot on a stick making us think we'll actually ever be able to pay for it then cutting off a basic gold supply enabling most any 80 to grab it and run is just cruel and bad customer support.

Blues! GMs! Devs! BLIZZ! Fix the game already!

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  • 9. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 06:14:08 AM PST
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Damn, didn't now it was bugged, gonna stop doing quests till the fix it, hopefully it will be fixed in a timely fashion.

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  • 10. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 07:08:27 AM PST
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According to a GM, some of the quests were intended not to reward additional gold, specifically the Champion of Anguish chain, since they already reward so much gold already. (~20g)

I did exactly what the poster above did, which was to complete as many quests as possible before going into Northrend, to save those for gold rewards. This was a logical thing to do, since even doing L60 quests at L70 was fairly profitable. Now it seems that it may have been too profitable to not get stealth nerfed?
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  • Firetree
  • 11. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 07:24:20 AM PST
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I just tested sharing a quest from a L80 to a L70 with BC only.

Quest [Disharmony of Flame] L52
Awards 1g55s and experience.

The quest on the L80 shows a 1g55s reward. On the L70 however, when it is being shared, before accepting, it shows a 1g98s50c award. Once accepting the reward is displayed as 1g55s.

I might consider running to complete this to prove if the amount of gold rewarded is different from the amount of gold displayed on the quest panel. I have already tested that theory with a Northrend quest however, and the gold reward of 5g matched the quest log saying 5g.

The scenario where the quest sharing mechanism is mistakenly showing too much gold reward as part of a bug seems extremely unlikely, and doesn't fit with past experience.
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  • Firetree
  • 12. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 07:47:41 AM PST
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I also just checked a quest that I'd previously tested this issue with.

Quest [Lost Thunderbrew Recipe] L55
Awards 85s and 12250 experience normally. At L80 it still only shows the 85s reward. Shared with L70 BC character, the quest during sharing displays 1g60s, but once accepted only displays 85s reward. A week ago, the L70 had the correct amount (1g60s) displayed in the quest log.

75s isn't too much for the sake of testing, so I turned in the quest for the reward.

55g4s9c before. 55g89s9c after. Definitely not just a display bug.
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  • 13. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 07:58:54 AM PST
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Mhm, I can confirm this, we are getting the XP-gold conversion, but not quest gold.

Or something to that effect, I am getting less gold than wowhead states i should recieve (sometimes 10+ less gold.)

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  • 14. Re: Quest XP to Gold @ 80   01/07/2009 12:34:31 PM PST
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You get either the gold reward from the quest or the gold from experience to cash, whichever is greater. You do not get both.

Sharing a quest with a level-capped BC player displaying as it is could be a display issue bug and I'll have it checked out. But experience-to-cash is working as designed.

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