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  • 0. Knockback, Death Grip, and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 01:59:17 AM PST
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MAJOR EDIT, Ignore the flaming below, and reread this post.

There is currently a serious issue with Death Grip, Typhoon, Blastwave, Thunderstorm, and flying mounts.

No crowd control or loss of character control will currently effect players WHILE FLYING on flying mounts, Except Death grip, Thunderstorm, Blast wave, and Typhoon.

Why, when no other class can effect you on your flying mount, can death knights pull you to them, mages/shamans/druids dismount you, and then kill you before you are able to fly away, or kill you with the pure falling damage of knocking you off your mount? A group of death knights can pull someone down long enough until they die, whereas no other class (save for mages, druids, and shamans) can have any such effect on a flying player.

A shaman, druid, or mage can all knock you off of your flying mount while you're flying around, and you will fall to your death, unless you're an engineer, have a slowfall item, or are a mage or priest.

A death knight can pull you from the air onto the ground, and then have you CC'd or killed in melee range.

How are these effects fair, when no other class can effect a flying player with any kind of loss-of-control effect such as fear or stun?

[ Post edited by Raloth ]

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  • Stormreaver
  • 1. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:01:49 AM PST
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Edit: Why cant I afk in the upper atmospheres of Wow?

Why are druids allowed to kill me in mid air by having an insta cast flight form?

why are druids allowed to kill anyone in the air by having an insta cast flight form?

Nerf Druids.

[ Post edited by Citix ]


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  • 2. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:02:14 AM PST
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wahhh.. learn how to play your toon. Its getting a little irritating viewing all these comments bashing Dk's. There a hero class, there meant to destroy some other toons that are regularly played. I for one, will never go back to my old boring toons. DK's are just way to fun
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  • Stormreaver
  • 3. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:04:56 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
wahhh.. learn how to play your toon. Its getting a little irritating viewing all these comments bashing Dk's. There a hero class, there meant to destroy some other toons that are regularly played. I for one, will never go back to my old boring toons. DK's are just way to fun


You and the OP are wrong.

Hero class doesnt mean they are over powered and the likes.

it simply means you start a 55.

There is a big difference.

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  • 5. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:09:19 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
There is currently a serious issue with Death Grip and flying mounts.

No crowd control or loss of character control will currently effect players on flying mounts, Except death grip.




You are completely wrong on this... druid typhoon dismounts you, mage blastwave dismounts you.. and im sure there are several more.

Ever been to nax when there are 20 horde/alliance camping the stone? you find out real quick that Death grip is no worse than the others.

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  • Zul'jin
  • 7. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:13:58 AM PST
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Assuming you have the range, don't most spells hit players on flying mount pretty darn sure my old main used to cast holy fire on horde in Outlands...
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  • Stormreaver
  • 8. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:14:25 AM PST
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But you can put dots on me while in air.

I have been dotted pretty hard in mid air by warlocks if I am too close.

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  • 9. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:15:49 AM PST
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lol.. so when the fat boomkin hits you with typhoon MID AIR and then instant casts his flight form while you fall 2000feet to your death.. umm yea...

or a mage dismounts and instant casts blast wave... dismounting you.. and then slow falls safely while /rofling at you...

you need to have some basis behind your complaint and stop QQing about a new class.

im done here.. time to go to work :p
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  • 12. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:18:37 AM PST
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But you can put dots on me while in air.

I have been dotted pretty hard in mid air by warlocks if I am too close.


And if I am flying too close to the ground, you can wail on me with your two handed weapon. Same effect.

But if you're five feet above me, I can't mind control you to the ground, and then have a mage sheep you, or a paladin stun you, or even fear you myself, whereas you can pull me down to the ground, and then ice me in place and kill me.

See the difference?
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  • Zul'jin
  • 13. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:19:20 AM PST
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Q u o t e:


There is no spell in the game, save for death grip, that will affect your ability to continue to fly on a flying mount.

If a DK is standing on the ground and deathgrips you, you are forced to land, at which point any other CC may be applied, or more death grips, or just plain damage.


Your right but warlock dots, hunter stings, shadow word pain, smites, fireballs.. any other spell in the game can be cured healed and defended on a mount?

That is how it sounds to me.
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  • 14. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:20:32 AM PST
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Your right but warlock dots, hunter stings, shadow word pain, smites, fireballs.. any other spell in the game can be cured healed and defended on a mount?

That is how it sounds to me.



See my post above yours.
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  • 15. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:29:55 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Neither of these effects work in the way you are suggesting. Try it.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

What's that? Screenshot or it didn't happen?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9126/typhoonbt7.jpg

Now, as much fun as this is, considering people on flying mounts are immune to things like Polymorph, stuns, blind, etc, they should also be immune to Death Grip, Typhoon, Blast Wave..

All or nothing. If you're going to let jerks like me hover outside Krasus Landing and blast people off their mounts, Mages should be able to Polymorph people off their mounts, too.

Don't. You're too young to experience that much pain.
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  • Stormreaver
  • 16. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:33:05 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

What's that? Screenshot or it didn't happen?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9126/typhoonbt7.jpg

Now, as much fun as this is, considering people on flying mounts are immune to things like Polymorph, stuns, blind, etc, they should also be immune to Death Grip, Typhoon, Blast Wave..

All or nothing. If you're going to let jerks like me hover outside Krasus Landing and blast people off their mounts, Mages should be able to Polymorph people off their mounts, too.


see?

Now your thoughts OP?

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  • 18. Re: Death Grip and Flying Mounts   12/16/2008 02:35:47 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

What's that? Screenshot or it didn't happen?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9126/typhoonbt7.jpg

Now, as much fun as this is, considering people on flying mounts are immune to things like Polymorph, stuns, blind, etc, they should also be immune to Death Grip, Typhoon, Blast Wave..

All or nothing. If you're going to let jerks like me hover outside Krasus Landing and blast people off their mounts, Mages should be able to Polymorph people off their mounts, too.


Works for me, all or nothing. No Blast wave, no typhoon, no death grip.

I'd been Typhooned on my mount before and I don't remember falling off, I just remember being farther away from the druid as he accidentally shifted into boomkin form instead of bird, and fell to his death.

Not to mention the fact that the majority of people are capable of living through a fall, slow a fall, or dodging this effect in the first place.

But I agree. All or nothing. Nothing should effect any player flying in the air, as it can cause player-induced repair damage.
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