It would be wonderful to have a choice in how we level up.

Considering the the name of the game is WARcraft and the theme is one side fighting another.

Some people hate questing, and they would like to level up by killing in combat vs other players in the battlegrounds.

On the other hand some people prefer to quest and kill mobs to level up.

This change will create a side effect and also discourage twinks in the battlegrounds, because they will eventually level up wither they want to or not. And the fights should balance out better. Another problem solved.

I also think that players that do nothing if this change happens should get less or no honor and experience.

Those who participate will get more.

The more heals you put out the more damage you do etc the more you will get.

Pretty simple.

I assume you'll haev a cap on what levels give you exp, right? Otherwise, it'll be impossible for anyone not already high level to get anywhere with 80's camped out in Goldshire/Razor Hill.

Yes, level caps would be implimented just like how mobs are.

On pvp servers this would encourage more pvping and for those who rolled on a server like this should enjoy it .

You do know you would kill every twink out there with this idea? If a twink got xp for killing others, then they would soon findthemselves moving up and out of their class.

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You do know you would kill every twink out there with this idea? If a twink got xp for killing others, then they would soon findthemselves moving up and out of their class.

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This change will create a side effect and also discourage twinks in the battlegrounds, because they will eventually level up wither they want to or not. And the fights should balance out better. Another problem solved.

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You didn't even read the entire thread. And yes it would help get rid of twinks.

Here you go --------------------------> Warhammer

have fun.

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Here you go --------------------------> Warhammer

have fun.

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You're saying that to seem trendy, since thats what anyone gets when they identify as one who plays PvP.

The fact is, this idea is pretty great because it allows for a break from the quest grind to AV every once in a blue moon while retaining a slight stream of exp.

It would also kill twinks, which gets my seal of approval.

BGs- I'm with you there. In fact I heard a rumor a while ago that Bliz was going to do something like this, with the full knowledge that this would end twinks.

Arena- Inconsequential since arena is endgame.

World PVP... Look. World PVP is just a euphemism for griefing/ganking. To a large extent, rewarding world pvp is just rewarding bad behavior.

Also, there is a 2:1 ratio of horde to alliance players, so if someone let players kill each other for exp, I'd never get any questing done because of the line of rogues that will form to kill me.

They could do this with diminishing returns. I've often wondered why this has never been implemented, especially 1-60 what with all the changes and buffs to that leveling range.

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You're saying that to seem trendy, since thats what anyone gets when they identify as one who plays PvP.

The fact is, this idea is pretty great because it allows for a break from the quest grind to AV every once in a blue moon while retaining a slight stream of exp.

It would also kill twinks, which gets my seal of approval.

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No the fact is that Warhammer does in fact give you XP for killing players. WoW has worked fine for the last 4 years by not having this.

As for the twinks, who really cares. I mean if you're doing pvp at 19 or 29 or whatever to get either honor or gear you're basically wasting your time anyway since the honor is pretty much nothing and the gear is useless within another couple of hours of playing.

So if someone wants xp for pvp, then my actual suggestion is that they go play another game that has the content they are looking for.

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So if someone wants xp for pvp, then my actual suggestion is that they go play another game that has the content they are looking for.

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Can't argue with that.

yup, and why I said "you do realize"

That's my point - you know it will get rid of twinks, and bliz knows there are many people out there that like to play twinks. The fact there are guilds devoted to twinks may give you a clue of how many participate in it. My enchanter makes a fortune off of twink enchants. It's not hard to make a twink, anyone can do it and the nice thing is you never have to "chase" the level or gear chain once you have your twink max'd out.

So what you see as 'good', others see as "bad" and guess who Blizz will cater to?

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BGs- I'm with you there. In fact I heard a rumor a while ago that Bliz was going to do something like this, with the full knowledge that this would end twinks.

Arena- Inconsequential since arena is endgame.

World PVP... Look. World PVP is just a euphemism for griefing/ganking. To a large extent, rewarding world pvp is just rewarding bad behavior.

Also, there is a 2:1 ratio of horde to alliance players, so if someone let players kill each other for exp, I'd never get any questing done because of the line of rogues that will form to kill me.

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I get what you are saying, but ganking and griefing are always going to be a part of a PVP server.

You knew what you were getting into when you rolled there.

But, there should be some type of world pvp rules where there is a limit or timer perhaps on killing the same person, and the current buff that exsists isn't anywhere near long enough for a griefer. I'd stretch it out to at least 5 minutes maybe more to discourage this kind of behavor.

It is unfair to those who are much lower when higher levels prey upon them like this.

Where was the challenge?

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You do know you would kill every twink out there with this idea? If a twink got xp for killing others, then they would soon findthemselves moving up and out of their class.

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I was going to post a "WORST IDEA EVER" comment here, until I saw this post.

Actually, now that you've brought that up and made me remember about twinks...

I think this would be a mixed idea...


1. Gets rids of twinks in BGs and elsewhere, which is very good.

But...

2. Would drop prices on twink gear in the AH. For new players, leveling their first toon(s) in this game, its very hard to earn enough gold to afford anything else unless you manage to get a twink drop and sell it. Getting lucky and getting a single BoE level 19 blue can take you from a player who had 43 silver acount wide to being a player 430g account wide...

New players need a source of income to catch up. Of course that's further compounded by the fact that most new players won't have an addon like auctioneer or know about websites were they can check the value on their goods - they're more likely to bind that blue to their toon because its a good upgrade, or sell it for a measly 1g... Every time I level a new alt (and I love leveling so that's a lot of toons) I end up sighing in frustration a lot when I see a newbie player who wins the roll on a twink item and refuses to believe me when I tell them to auction it;

newb: "But its an upgrade!"
Me: "Yeah, but you can sell it for 10 million gold."
newb: "Lol right, it's only level 19" [equips the blue of leetness]
me: "sigh... my point exactly... level 19"
[2 hours later] newb whispers you: "WTF, Why didn't you tell me what that was worth??? There's was one in the auction house for 20 million gold and a guy was laughing saying he got it cheap after he bought it..."

(prices slightly exaggerated... :) )

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So... maybe twink gear doesn't help new players as much as it could... but it does help a lot of them. Removing it from the market may or may not be a good idea... And that's what this idea would do.

I think it would be a good change.

FIRST!
And, It would be nice to be levling up through pvp. PVPERS wouldnt need to PVE to PVP.

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It's a possibility for some time in the future, but we don't have anything more on that at this point in time. We mentioned it at Blizzcon as a consideration, however.

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