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I have to say that I am exceptionally disappointed by the lack of attention that GC payed to the healing community on this matter. When a 6 sec CD was proposed, the community responded and the vast majority suggested something OTHER than a CD.. and those that wanted the CD were not priests.

We all know that CoH and WG need a nerf, but we all discussed changes that would make sense for weeks and it seems those discussions were all wasted.

So my question is this:

GC, will the CD be the 6 second CD you originally proposed?

And if so…

Why were we not heard on this matter?

I give this thread as a reference although there are many:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454546730&sid=1&pageNo=1


btw: My priest is still 70 because I chose, like so many other raiding healers, to play a tank in LK.

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Meh - they will go with the 6 second cooldown because it will be easiest thing for the developers to implement. During Beta I believe it was 6 seconds for a short period and then rolled back. So the code is in place and ready to go.

Edit: I would think that this would be a parameter they could tweak.

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The 6 second CD makes it so that priest AoE healing throughput is about equal to shamans, rather than 3x shamans' healing throughput.

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try searching more

theres only a bajillion topics on this subject

its not even on the PTR

and of course priests wouldnt agree to the nerf... who would want their own class nerfed

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We explored several options to nerf CoH and WG and eventually settled on a cooldown

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As far as the throughput comment.... do the math yourself, a 6 sec CD will not make it equal to CH.

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Tip : CoH 6s cooldown is not a 6s silence, do factor your other spells in.

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I do in fact read them and track what GC says on the topic...


Here is his latest post on it:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275671464&pageNo=1&sid=1#4



I am simply asking what the CD is and (if it is 6 sec) why it has not changed from the original given the amount of feedback.

btw: You are wrong, I know that CoH needs a nerf.

As far as the throughput comment.... do the math yourself, a 6 sec CD will not make it equal to CH.

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I personally never said that it should be equal to CH
plus its really our only raid healing option
priests have so many healing spells many of which they dont even use both because of how good CoH is and how bad the others are... i really hope they buff some of your other spells to compensate

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CoH is our only raid healing option as well. It is our only multi-target heal that can be used on a raid. The ones we don't use generally aren't viable for raid healing by design (PoH, Holy Nova, Lightwell, etc.).

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I honestly didn't get that from the original post. It sounded more like someone who disagreed with our logic and wanted a chance to argue or vent some more. But I'll take you at your word. :)

I also suspect that even if the answer satisfies you that it won't satisfy many other folks, and we'll see this thread at 15 pages soon with the same arguments and misguided claims of shaman favoritism that we've gone through for several rounds now. Alas.

But to answer your questions, we are going with a 6 second cooldown for now. I have offered in other threads why we don't like many of the alternative solutions that were suggested. You have to remember that when we come up with a change it has already gone through many days (or weeks) of debate. While we do change our minds sometimes when the community makes a good point, we also have thought about the issue an awful lot before it ever even gets announced.

Players rarely if ever agree with nerfs to their class (though it does happen). There is always a vocal and impassioned outcry. Most of these have happened in the damage dealing forum (and the beta forums before that) because honestly we haven't had to nerf healers much.

The changes will be available on the PTR so you can try them out and give us more feedback before they go live.

Try and remember that we make each and every nerf for the good of the game. I think player sometimes lose sight of that.

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I honestly didn't get that from the original post. It sounded more like someone who disagreed with our logic and wanted a chance to argue or vent some more. But I'll take you at your word. :)

I also suspect that even if the answer satisfies you that it won't satisfy many other folks, and we'll see this thread at 15 pages soon with the same arguments and misguided claims of shaman favoritism that we've gone through for several rounds now. Alas.

But to answer your questions, we are going with a 6 second cooldown for now. I have offered in other threads why we don't like many of the alternative solutions that were suggested. You have to remember that when we come up with a change it has already gone through many days (or weeks) of debate. While we do change our minds sometimes when the community makes a good point, we also have thought about the issue an awful lot before it ever even gets announced.

Players rarely if ever agree with nerfs to their class (though it does happen). There is always a vocal and impassioned outcry. Most of these have happened in the damage dealing forum (and the beta forums before that) because honestly we haven't had to nerf healers much.

The changes will be available on the PTR so you can try them out and give us more feedback before they go live.

Try and remember that we make each and every nerf for the good of the game. I think player sometimes lose sight of that.

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Any plans on changing Prayer of healing? Making it castable on another party for one?

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