Hunters were designed around the ability to kite their target... so fix the problem by buffing their ability to kite the target back to what it used to be... DON'T make a worse problem for many other classes by buffing their melee to match melee classes.

They are going off a comment that GC posted... saying they were looking to give us some more melee capability, so every classes counter to hunter was not "stand right next to them so they can't do anything"

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Apparently there are hunters out there that think they deserve a buff in melee dps to put them on par with the melee classes. Now no other class in the game can do both melee and ranged dps effectively. The only classes that come close to that are shamans and druids and they BOTH have to not only respec but completely switch out their gear. What makes hunters so special that they think they deserve to do both?

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Apparently you haven't read anything from the actual posts, or anything that's been said about hunter melee damage. It's going to equivilate to 80% of our ranged damage, which would still make ranged the more attractive choice.

And what are you talking about, every other caster in the game can do full damage in melee range. Last I checked there was no minimum range on offensive spells for Mages, Warlocks, Druids, Shaman, or Priests. So that whole thing about hunters thinking we're special is a load of bull.

Doing more damage in melee isn't going to make us WANT to fight in melee more often, it makes it less attractive for CASTERS to hump us and cast their spells in melee range.

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Apparently there are hunters out there that think they deserve a buff in melee dps to put them on par with the melee classes. Now no other class in the game can do both melee and ranged dps effectively. The only classes that come close to that are shamans and druids and they BOTH have to not only respec but completely switch out their gear. What makes hunters so special that they think they deserve to do both?

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It'd be a PvP change. What's this got to do with you anyway? If this is a "MOMMY! BOBBY GOT MORE THAN ME!" whine, then consider the fact that hunters can't respec for healing when the raid is FULLDPSLOL.

Oh, it looks like you failed here too. What is it with you and failure? Sorry 'boutcha.
Maybe this'll teach you to educate yourself before you start flaming and acting immature.

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It'd be a PvP change. What's this got to do with you anyway? If this is a "MOMMY! BOBBY GOT MORE THAN ME!" whine, then consider the fact that hunters can't respec for healing when the raid is FULLDPSLOL.

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LOL..... "MOMMY! BOBBY GOT MORE THAN ME!"nice point .... i think thats what this is about.... i think poster no 3 has pretty much said it all.....

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Hunters are fundamentally a ranged class. I don't think many people are arguing against that.

The melee issue came up as a potential answer to what you do when someone closes on you?

Plate-wearers can often stand there and take it.
Rogues can pop Evasion, or stun and run.
Mages can Blink... and so on.

Maybe it makes sense that hunters, as mail-wearers with some melee specials, should be a little closer to the top of that list than the bottom. We're not saying a hunter should take out a death knight at point-blank range. But maybe if the DK is wounded or the hunter has good healing that you should think twice about always running up on the hunter.

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Wow, Can my Throw do 80% of my normal damage then? Please?

There is no more dead zone, l2wing clip / scatter shot / frost trap / feeze trap / what else am I fogetting?
Hunters are fine when it comes to melee range combat. You know why I beat hunters all the time? they try to raptor strike and mongoose bite me when I manage to get to melee range instead of CCing me like any non-retard would. Also I do believe scatter shot has no minimum range. MM is the standard pvp spec no?
Quit QQing, you're just bad, L2P

Ghostcrawler, thanks for doing your best in trying to balance out my class while taking the brunt of the negativity. I realize that your thick skin comes with the territory but even your skin will occasionally dry and crack in this intense environment. :)

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Hunters are fundamentally a ranged class. I don't think many people are arguing against that.

The melee issue came up as a potential answer to what you do when someone closes on you?

Plate-wearers can often stand there and take it.
Rogues can pop Evasion, or stun and run.
Mages can Blink... and so on.

Maybe it makes sense that hunters, as mail-wearers with some melee specials, should be a little closer to the top of that list than the bottom. We're not saying a hunter should take out a death knight at point-blank range. But maybe if the DK is wounded or the hunter has good healing that you should think twice about always running up on the hunter.

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Wait, what can warlocks do?

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The melee issue came up as a potential answer to what you do when someone closes on you?

Plate-wearers can often stand there and take it.
Rogues can pop Evasion, or stun and run.
Mages can Blink... and so on.

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There is no "and so on." That's it. If you're not one of those classes you just die.

Rev.

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There is no more dead zone, l2wing clip / scatter shot / frost trap / feeze trap / what else am I fogetting?
Hunters are fine when it comes to melee range combat. You know why I beat hunters all the time? they try to raptor strike and mongoose bite me when I manage to get to melee range instead of CCing me like any non-retard would. Also I do believe scatter shot has no minimum range. MM is the standard pvp spec no?
Quit QQing, you're just bad, L2P

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Hahahahhaha......breathe.....hahahahahahhaha

Looking at the MM tree.....Hmmm.....no Scatter Shot???

Ill see your Ranged or Melee and raise you caster dps or physical dps.

There are some fuzzy definitions in hunter mechanics and it would help immensely if they were resolved.

And warlocks just die


However to overcome this problem I have respecced unholy.

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Q u o t e:
Hunters are fundamentally a ranged class. I don't think many people are arguing against that.

The melee issue came up as a potential answer to what you do when someone closes on you?

Plate-wearers can often stand there and take it.
Rogues can pop Evasion, or stun and run.
Mages can Blink... and so on.

Maybe it makes sense that hunters, as mail-wearers with some melee specials, should be a little closer to the top of that list than the bottom. We're not saying a hunter should take out a death knight at point-blank range. But maybe if the DK is wounded or the hunter has good healing that you should think twice about always running up on the hunter.

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Couldn't think of a Warlock example to use?

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Q u o t e:
Hunters are fundamentally a ranged class. I don't think many people are arguing against that.

The melee issue came up as a potential answer to what you do when someone closes on you?

Plate-wearers can often stand there and take it.
Rogues can pop Evasion, or stun and run.
Mages can Blink... and so on.

Maybe it makes sense that hunters, as mail-wearers with some melee specials, should be a little closer to the top of that list than the bottom. We're not saying a hunter should take out a death knight at point-blank range. But maybe if the DK is wounded or the hunter has good healing that you should think twice about always running up on the hunter.

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really?
REALLY?
Hunters have PLENTY of abilities to regain range on melee classes, wing clip has NO COOLDOWN and frankly no pvp hunter should be without imp wingclip anyway. besides frost trap, scatter, and the new disengage. there is no more dead zone. I remember a time when my mage could kill a hunter by standing at the right distance and spamming AE while they were unable to touch me. Those days are gone. The only hunter issue right now is LoS in arenas, which on one had is lame, but neccessary. On a big open field, hunters could destroy almost any class with their superior range on almost all abilities and their mechanisms to escape ranged combat.

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Wow, Can my Throw do 80% of my normal damage then? Please?

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I'm perfectly fine with that.

Does that mean you're going to stay 20 yards from me and we'll duke it out at range? Please say yes...

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There is no more dead zone, l2wing clip / scatter shot / frost trap / feeze trap / what else am I fogetting?
Hunters are fine when it comes to melee range combat. You know why I beat hunters all the time? they try to raptor strike and mongoose bite me when I manage to get to melee range instead of CCing me like any non-retard would. Also I do believe scatter shot has no minimum range. MM is the standard pvp spec no?
Quit QQing, you're just bad, L2P

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First of all, we're the ONLY class in the game with a COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE CC, even if I lay the trap DIRECTLY on top of you, if you move out quick enough, you've avoided it.

And Scatter Shot isn't even in the MM tree anymore.

Maybe you should learn a bit about a class before you try to flame them.

isnt it a bad thing for a meele only class to have to be worried about getting into meele range with a ranged class. i mean that seems kinda strange. o ##%@ a hunters shooting me i beter run into meele range so i can actualy do damage now. o ##%@ im in meele range and hes still a big threat i beter run away. o ##%@ hes shooting me again, o i is ded.