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I think you should take a harder look at Nourish. We received so much feedback on Nourish that I was sort of going along with the conventional wisdom that Nourish didn't fill a large enough role. Since then a few druids have set me straight. It can be a really amazing spell.

Glyphed Regrowth is also a really good spell, but it is still a hot -- it doesn't get the health out to the target as fast as Nourish.

If you're a big (glyphed) Healing Touch fan, then I can see how you might use it instead of Nourish, especially if you run heroics a lot (and so are filling all of the healing roles yourself). But if I was taking any button off of my bar for raiding, it would be HT and not Regrowth.

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Could you share some of those times when it is really amazing spell?

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Q u o t e:
I think you should take a harder look at Nourish. We received so much feedback on Nourish that I was sort of going along with the conventional wisdom that Nourish didn't fill a large enough role. Since then a few druids have set me straight. It can be a really amazing spell.

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I, for one, appriciate Nourish. It fills one of the biggest holes (IMO) in Druid healing: The mid range heal. And yes, it's not the most mana efficent heal- nor is it the greatest heal in the book. But it's 12-15% of my healing in heroics, and I know my tank loves it. Nourish has a nice spot deep in my standard rotation, though it's not the best for raiding. Oh well.

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If you're a big (glyphed) Healing Touch fan, then I can see how you might use it instead of Nourish, especially if you run heroics a lot (and so are filling all of the healing roles yourself). But if I was taking any button off of my bar for raiding, it would be HT and not Regrowth.

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I'm sorry, I am not a fan at all of the healing touch glyph. Though in it's defense- the only time I use HT is when I'm in serious trouble, and is 95% of the time used in conjunction with Nature's Swiftness. I realize it's usefulness, but think it unbalances the overall healing. HT is off my main bar (moved to a sub-bar next to NS a LONG time ago).

Honestly, Nourish won't be a raiding spell for most- though it's still used with success (IMO). If you don't like it, nobody's making you heal with it.

I have healed all content in the game except 25 man Malygos, Sapphiron and KT. I did not mis Nourish once.

It is a great spell for boomkins though. Maybe they should get a talent to make it usable in chicken form?

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I, for one, appriciate Nourish. It fills one of the biggest holes (IMO) in Druid healing: The mid range heal. And yes, it's not the most mana efficent heal- nor is it the greatest heal in the book. But it's 12-15% of my healing in heroics, and I know my tank loves it. Nourish has a nice spot deep in my standard rotation, though it's not the best for raiding. Oh well.

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Glyphed Regrowth is also a really good spell, but it is still a hot -- it doesn't get the health out to the target as fast as Nourish.

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Are you serious? Have you ever cast regrowth? Its a direct heal with a hot. It has more crit ability and I am finding it healing for more then Nourish. Regrowth is not just a hot. Glyphed Regrowth is amazing. I never cast Nourish in a raid unless I misclick.

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I have healed all content in the game except 25 man Malygos, Sapphiron and KT. I did not mis Nourish once.

It is a great spell for boomkins though. Maybe they should get a talent to make it usable in chicken form?

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This was what I've been saying. I bet every Moonkin in the game would drop Starshards or typhoone in a sec for a talent that does this (even if it's at reduced healing or increased mana cost).

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Are you serious? Have you ever cast regrowth? Its a direct heal with a hot. It has more crit ability and I am finding it healing for more then Nourish. Regrowth is not just a hot. Glyphed Regrowth is amazing. I never cast Nourish in a raid unless I misclick.

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You have nourish on your hot bar?

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You have nourish on your hot bar?

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I have all my heals on my hot bar. Not like there is not enough room for them.

I wish I could cast Nourish more often because I like the animation. Most heals are sort of flowing, soothing sounds and animations like, "i'm healing you," but Nourish is all urgent and direct like, "BAM I'M HEALING YOU".

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Are you serious? Have you ever cast regrowth? Its a direct heal with a hot. It has more crit ability and I am finding it healing for more then Nourish. Regrowth is not just a hot. Glyphed Regrowth is amazing. I never cast Nourish in a raid unless I misclick.

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I think what he means is all your spellpower goes right to the target rather than getting divided up between the direct portion and the HoT. The high crit rate on regrowth goes a long way towards making up for this though.

Nourish is fine.

It's a fast moderately inefficient heal that could make the difference between wipe and win. 0.5 is a lifetime when your tank is @ 4k health.

An added ability of refreshing all current hots on the target would make nourish more enticing. Right now it sucks, for all of the reasons mentioned by other posters above. I don't need to rehash them here.

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Nourish is fine.

It's a fast moderately inefficient heal that could make the difference between wipe and win. 0.5 is a lifetime when your tank is @ 4k health.

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One could argue that an instant swiftmend, or ns+ht, are both better options than a cast time for this scenario.

Nourish is on my bar but not bound to a key.

Sorta like HT.


Regrowth, Lifebloom, Rejuv and Swiftmend.....still our strength as they should be.

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Q u o t e:
I think you should take a harder look at Nourish. We received so much feedback on Nourish that I was sort of going along with the conventional wisdom that Nourish didn't fill a large enough role. Since then a few druids have set me straight. It can be a really amazing spell.

Glyphed Regrowth is also a really good spell, but it is still a hot -- it doesn't get the health out to the target as fast as Nourish.

If you're a big (glyphed) Healing Touch fan, then I can see how you might use it instead of Nourish, especially if you run heroics a lot (and so are filling all of the healing roles yourself). But if I was taking any button off of my bar for raiding, it would be HT and not Regrowth.

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The Problem:
Nourish isn't a bad spell, nor is the niche it's meant to fill. The spell is just lacking when compared to the other druid spell / glyph combination's current available in the repertoire.

Why?:
-It lacks talent synergy.
-In tree form, it's minimally more mana efficient than regrowth, while remaining similar in potency to glyphed regrowth / glyphed HT.

Contributing Concerns:
-It's too reliant on the T7 4 piece set bonus.
-It lacks a glyph of its own.

I hope the format of my response reduces the noise-to-signal ratio.

-Tactic

It's a fast spell. That's all that it needs to be. Honestly after the WG/CoH nerf I can see me using it to heal random DPS on trash pulls where mana doesn't matter. Believe it or not, mana isn't always the issue. Healing numbers aren't always the issue. Sometimes you just need a fast heal.

I would love to see it effected by wild growth, there is no reason it shouldn't be. I would also love to see a glyph that did... something, anything really. Chances are I'd pick it up. And maybe some more talents that effect it. It seems nourish's only real issue is the fact that it's a new spell. It lacks the bonuses that our other spells are getting.

Yeah, i'm not happy with nourish eigther.

I've got the glyph of regrowth and quite frankly, can't see a situation where i would use nourish above regrowth.

Yes, i realise that if a druid did NOT have glyph of regrowth, it might be different. But why would any [resto] druid not have that glyph?

I would really love to see nourish changed to:

nourish - x mana
Heals the target for x. Refreshes the duration of regrowth and rejuv on target.

Simple, and interacts well. gives a druid a reason NOT to get the regrowth glyph.

Edit: Changed a sentence around.

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Oops. Yes, that is what I meant. Thanks.

When Nourish came up in beta, some druids asked "Why would I use Nourish when I have Regrowth?" The answer is that Regrowth is an amazing spell (finally), but it's not a flash heal.

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Regrowth is now an amazing spell indeed. Thanks!

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nourish - x mana
Heals the target for x. Refreshes the duration of regrowth and rejuv on target.

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You know, I LOVE that idea. Maybe not both because that would be a bit OP. Maybe "refreshes Regrowth or Rejuv" (Which ever has less time left).

Then again you'd also run into the problem that spamming it would reset your HoTs all the time so they wouldn't tick, that might be more hurt than help in some cases.

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You know, I LOVE that idea. Maybe not both because that would be a bit OP. Maybe "refreshes Regrowth or Rejuv" (Which ever has less time left).

Then again you'd also run into the problem that spamming it would reset your HoTs all the time so they wouldn't tick, that might be more hurt than help in some cases.

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I think there will probably be a glyph of nourish that works a lot like glyph of starfire does, but for hots and not dots.