I'll keep this short, because people have made the point many times before about how Regrowth spam is better than Nourish. So how could it be fixed:

- Make Improved Regrowth also affect Nourish's crit chance
- Make Nourish benefit from Wild Growth (borrowed this suggestion from another thread, can't remember which though.); and
- Give us a Glyph of Nourish that does something cool with it.

Nourish is useless and nothing will change it... if you want it to heal as much as palys FoL you have to spent another 500+ mana to heal as much, but for more mana... WOOT Best spell ever!!! "sarcasm"

I made the "make it work with Wild Growth" suggestion yesterday (and probably the day before that), and honestly that would give it a clear enough niche for me to be happy with it. It has its place now, but it is a somewhat uncomfortable an awkward one because it is rarely obvious that it is the best choice.

I'm trying really hard to make it work (I actually use it, just out of stubbornness more than anything).. But it's not easy. Regrowth spam is more efficient.

Actually, I just had another thought, an alternative way to fix it:

Nourish
Req level 80, 600 mana
Increases healing from heal over time effects by 80% for 6 seconds

It also fits better with the spell name.

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Nourish is useless and nothing will change it... if you want it to heal as much as palys FoL you have to spent another 500+ mana to heal as much, but for more mana... WOOT Best spell ever!!! "sarcasm"

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You're kidding right. I'm scared to look at your armory if your Nourish is only healing as much as a Paladins Flash of Light.

The only place I remind using it is on kel`thuzad when people get the iceblok and Nourish is fast, but rej+swiftmend works better :P

I've finally settled with the fact that Nourish is not, in fact, a Resto spell, but is instead used for Balance and Ferals in PVP. Huzzah PVP!

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I've finally settled with the fact that Nourish is not, in fact, a Resto spell, but is instead used for Balance and Ferals in PVP. Huzzah PVP!

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Yes, exactly. I think it's fairly obvious from the number of talents that affect Regrowth and the number that affect Nourish that Nourish is intended to be a "decent" spell without having to be bolstered by Restoration talents. As Restoration Druids will pick up talents to augment Regrowth, RG will inevitably win out. Ferals and Balance Druids, however, cannot afford to have made the same investment.

With Replenish, Living Seed, and Gift of the Earthmother overpriced and undervalued and the 6-second CD being added to Wild Growth, I'm beginning to wonder what new and fun abilities Restoration got this expansion. Sadly, the thing I'm most excited about is the thing we should have had all along: Revive.

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Yes, exactly. I think it's fairly obvious from the number of talents that affect Regrowth and the number that affect Nourish that Nourish is intended to be a "decent" spell without having to be bolstered by Restoration talents. As Restoration Druids will pick up talents to augment Regrowth, RG will inevitably win out. Ferals and Balance Druids, however, cannot afford to have made the same investment.

With Replenish, Living Seed, and Gift of the Earthmother overpriced and undervalued and the 6-second CD being added to Wild Growth, I'm beginning to wonder what new and fun abilities Restoration got this expansion. Sadly, the thing I'm most excited about is the thing we should have had all along: Revive.

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omg, a phaelia sighting!

<3 resto4life, check it everyday. =)

anyway, nourish is okay, just nothing special. i honestly never used it much in beta except for certain situations (KT iceblocks are a good example though, and Loatheb is another) but it has a place on my bar.

overall rating: meh. i wouldn't notice if it was gone.

At least you didn't get divine hymn ;)

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I'll keep this short, because people have made the point many times before about how Regrowth spam is better than Nourish. So how could it be fixed:

- Make Improved Regrowth also affect Nourish's crit chance
- Make Nourish benefit from Wild Growth (borrowed this suggestion from another thread, can't remember which though.); and
- Give us a Glyph of Nourish that does something cool with it.

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I was actually surprised when I tried Nourish last night and found that it did not benefit from Wild Growth. That seemed odd to me.

All these suggestions sound good to me. :)

Do suggestions in this forum actually get read, or should I take this over to the suggestions forum?

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Do suggestions in this forum actually get read, or should I take this over to the suggestions forum?

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Stuff gets read, but probably won't get responded to.

weak heal that has no synergy with anything and no glyph 4tL. I use it occasionally on a mage or something because it's there.

What are you talking about? You get to use it in cat from while insane - that is totally OP.

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Do suggestions in this forum actually get read, or should I take this over to the suggestions forum?

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I think you have a better chance of having it addressed here. Bringing it to the suggestion forum would most likely end up with it being buried beneath irrelevant spammed posts for other ‘suggestions’, assuming the regular establishment defenders posting on that particular forum do not tear your suggestion apart for giggles and kicks first.

Here is where this topic belongs, as it is relevant to healers in general, and especially to resto druids. Here you will receive more informed and polite feedback as those reading it will have a better understand of what you are actually talking about.

Plus Ghostcrawler is actually allowed to respond here. He hasn’t much lately as he is busy elsewhere, and might also be a little disgruntled due to the amount of anger directed at the 6 second CD nerf, and could be avoiding further confrontations until he has something more positive to tell us…(but who knows?).

Besides, where is the line drawn between acceptable on topic posting? It is a suggestion and at the same time a valid discussion regarding a particular healing spell. My vote would be that it belongs here more then there.

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With Replenish, Living Seed, and Gift of the Earthmother overpriced and undervalued and the 6-second CD being added to Wild Growth, I'm beginning to wonder what new and fun abilities Restoration got this expansion. Sadly, the thing I'm most excited about is the thing we should have had all along: Revive.

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What did Druids get from BC? life Bloom nerfed. Cyclone Nerfed. Druids get Flight Form and Trees can now run. Wow. 2 things from 2 expansions?

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What did Druids get from BC? life Bloom nerfed. Cyclone Nerfed. Druids get Flight Form and Trees can now run. Wow. 2 things from 2 expansions?

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To be fair, they have been pretty kind to feral druids (Savage fury anyone? Swipe (Cat) is on its way too). It's just that resto is getting a bit of a raw deal.

Shameless bump for more exposure.

I actually use Nourish a fair amount in healing. I mean it's not a miracle spell or anything, but it can be useful. Just to give you an idea it accounted for ~5.4% of my healing done in a Heroic Strat run
Times I prefer Nourish over Regrowth are

Topping the tank off on boss fight where I think mana may come into play.

Spamming it on dps when swiftmend is on cooldown or I would like to save my swiftmend for the tank

Any time when there is a slight disparity between the damage the tank is taking and the damage my hots are covering, ie he's slowly losing health.

I would still use Regrowth over Nourish if the damage is substantial, the hot part of Regrowth is almost over and for dps if I expect them to continue taking some sort of residual or aoe damage.