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How will this affect MM hunters?

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Oh, I may have misinterpreted that then, sorry. Yeah if we can get stunned we're pretty boned then :/ It's just the kidney shot and HoJ that I'm worried about, doesn't look like it'll be deflecting either of those. I retract my previous statement.

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50% spell resist and melee miss for 12 seconds while still letting us attack is vastly different than 100% deflect for 5 seconds where WE CAN NOT ATTACK.

It's basically a short iceblock that lets us keep moving but it doesn't scrub any debuffs/dots (those will keep doing damage)

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Oh, I may have misinterpreted that then, sorry. Yeah if we can get stunned we're pretty boned then :/ It's just the kidney shot and HoJ that I'm worried about, doesn't look like it'll be deflecting either of those. I retract my previous statement.

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4) Deterrence – has been completely overhauled. It now allows you to deflect 100% of incoming melee or spell damage for 5 seconds, but prevents you from attacking while active. You still must be facing the attacker to deflect the damage (this is a limitation we are trying and might end up removing). 60 sec cooldown.
7) Serpent’s Swiftness – now only grants 2/4/6/8/10% bonus attack speed to pet.
10) Call of the Wild – now benefits only the hunter and his or her pet.

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Says who? All GC said was "deflects 100% of melee and spell damage". Plenty of non-damaging stuns out there.

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Why don't you hunters just come out and say what you really want...

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Oh I agree entirely that against melee this will behave almost identically to the original deterrence. But casters tend to be further away and cannot exploit your backside. (I want to patent the phrase exploit your backside btw) I mean the ability to negate a hex or root etc could have potentially profound impact.

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4. Where are the pvp buffs? Rogues got dismantle, where's the fking hunter love? The least you could have done is made deterrence a 5 second cheat death.

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I did say these are not all the hunter changes we're working on. Some we haven't quite worked out yet and others (one exciting one in particular concerning ammo) won't be ready until Ulduar or so.

We think MM was too high and BM was way too high. Survival is probably a little low. We are looking at buffing Survival, possibly through Explosive Shot, but we haven't finalized that yet.

The Deterrence change is defintely something we'll need to see in action on the PTR.

I don't want to do a disservice to all the good PvP feedback by attempting to boil it down too much. However, in general a lot of hunters were concerned about being able to do damage as much as they were concerned about being able to survive damage. We don't expect the Deterrence change to solve the former problem obviously. We're still working on that one, but we wanted to go ahead and announce what changes we have now so that you guys can be chewing on them.

Nerfing classes is never fun. It means that our initial tests and estimates didn't play out in the real world, which is a failing on our part, not anything the players did wrong. While buffing is a lot more fun, we think we'd get to crazy land too quickly by trying to make current BM dps the new benchmark. That would mean touching virtually every other class and spec as well as many encounters. While it might produce more positive PR in the short-term, it's a ton more work in the long-term that we would rather spend on new content or other problem areas.

Also, the sky is not falling. We're posting here so we can get feedback. Threats of rerolling or that sort of melodrama aren't really giving us any information we need. I can understand while you might want to vent a little bit, but posts with nothing but QQ aren't helpful. :)

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