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Arianne

< The Coalition >

Lightbringer

80. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:03:35 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Arc Lightning isn't an AoE, it's a single target ability that chains to people standing too close to one another. If it's doing AoE damage, your group is standing too close to one another.

Guess what all the strategies say to do? Oh yeah, stand right on top of each other. Read the rest of the thread please.

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Fozan

< European Devils >

Elune

82. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:35:22 PM PST

1. Heroic HoL is a pain.

2. Here is the whole spill on my help and how I got it done.

First: The best group build is to have;
a. Of coarse "Holy Pally"
b. DPS: Hunter for his "Nature Resistance Buff"
c. DPS: Shaman for his "Nature Resistance Totem"
d. Tank: Druid tank for his "Buff"
e. DPS: Any other DPS you would like.....

Second: Buy out some Elixirs of Nature Protection

Third: Put on the Sig. that makes your Small Heal a HoT.

Fourth: Put on the Sig. that makes your Large Heal a AoE Heal.

Do not be stupid and stay in the AoE from Loken.

This is what helped me get through this instance and was not easy to figure out.
I think I must have wiped on this boss so many times.

Bumbarudeboi

< KOHJ >

Shadowsong

83. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:38:28 PM PST

does nature res buff and nature res totem stack now?

and for what its worth...2nd boss in oculus is harder for me

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I'm a healer.
I replenish your lost health.
If you are standing in a fire, you are stupid.
I can't heal stupid
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Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

84. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:45:20 PM PST

Here is a strategy I have seen used a lot on heroic Loken with a paladin healing.

-- Everyone moves to melee together. The paladin casts Beacon on himself.
-- When you get the emote for Lightning Nova, everyone moves back together.
-- There is often a misperception that Lightning Nova has a huge range. It doesn't. You don't have to move far.
-- You also don't need to run back to Loken. Let him come to you. Then next Lightning Nova, move backwards again. You can do a slow kite all the way around the globe if you need to.
-- Of Loken's three abilities, Lightning Nova is the worst, followed by Pulsing Shockwave. Arc Lightning can do a lot of damage, but it's not always worth spreading out to try and avoid it because then the other two abilities can nail you. However, if you are getting multiple stacks of Arc Lightning, the damage can add up. If it gets to be a problem, try to spread out slightly but still move together as a group.
-- This isn't a healing fight at the end of the day. It's a movement and coordination fight, much like Murmur in Shadow Labs.

Loken does kill more players than any other boss. He's not a pushover. Good luck!

Amingo

< Bluefrex >

Chromaggus

85. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:46:35 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Here is a strategy I have seen used a lot on heroic Loken with a paladin healing.

-- Everyone moves to melee together. The paladin casts Beacon on himself.
-- When you get the emote for Lightning Nova, everyone moves back together.
-- There is often a misperception that Lightning Nova has a huge range. It doesn't. You don't have to move far.
-- You also don't need to run back to Loken. Let him come to you. Then next Lightning Nova, move backwards again. You can do a slow kite all the way around the globe if you need to.
-- Of Loken's three abilities, Lightning Nova is the worst, followed by Pulsing Shockwave. Arc Lightning can do a lot of damage, but it's not always worth spreading out to try and avoid it because then the other two abilities can nail you. However, if you are getting multiple stacks of Arc Lightning, the damage can add up. If it gets to be a problem, try to spread out slightly but still move together as a group.
-- This isn't a healing fight at the end of the day. It's a movement and coordination fight, much like Murmur in Shadow Labs.

Loken does kill more players than any other boss. He's not a pushover. Good luck!

Wow, I didn't know you guys were actually telling paladins how to play now. Thanks!

Edit: came out kinda sarcastic, did not mean it. Happy uhh Winter's Veil!

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Bumbarudeboi

< KOHJ >

Shadowsong

86. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:47:03 PM PST

thanks GC

I'm a healer.
I replenish your lost health.
If you are standing in a fire, you are stupid.
I can't heal stupid
-Moghlan - The Scryers

Chetaka

< Wretched Souls >

Earthen Ring

87. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:47:34 PM PST

Q u o t e:
-- There is often a misperception that Lightning Nova has a huge range. It doesn't. You don't have to move far.

Hehe, that was a mistake I often made at first. I ran waaaay across the room, trying to escape, and then was out of range to heal the tank again. :P

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Bumbarudeboi

< KOHJ >

Shadowsong

88. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:49:02 PM PST

Q u o t e:

-- You also don't need to run back to Loken. Let him come to you. Then next Lightning Nova, move backwards again. You can do a slow kite all the way around the globe if you need to.

so he doesn't randomly run around? Does he follow the tank? or top threat?

I'm a healer.
I replenish your lost health.
If you are standing in a fire, you are stupid.
I can't heal stupid
-Moghlan - The Scryers

Arianne

< The Coalition >

Lightbringer

89. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:52:16 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Here is a strategy I have seen used a lot on heroic Loken with a paladin healing.

-- Everyone moves to melee together. The paladin casts Beacon on himself.
-- When you get the emote for Lightning Nova, everyone moves back together.
-- There is often a misperception that Lightning Nova has a huge range. It doesn't. You don't have to move far.
-- You also don't need to run back to Loken. Let him come to you. Then next Lightning Nova, move backwards again. You can do a slow kite all the way around the globe if you need to.
-- Of Loken's three abilities, Lightning Nova is the worst, followed by Pulsing Shockwave. Arc Lightning can do a lot of damage, but it's not always worth spreading out to try and avoid it because then the other two abilities can nail you. However, if you are getting multiple stacks of Arc Lightning, the damage can add up. If it gets to be a problem, try to spread out slightly but still move together as a group.
-- This isn't a healing fight at the end of the day. It's a movement and coordination fight, much like Murmur in Shadow Labs.

Loken does kill more players than any other boss. He's not a pushover. Good luck!

/shrug YMMV then. The time that I did it on a PUG group with a paladin healer (I was ret and also helping to heal) we died to arc lightning more than anything else because we were doing the 'stack up and run around together' strat. It didn't seem possible to stack (even loosely) and not get hit by arc lightning.

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Newsalvation

< Axis >

Ysera

90. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:54:51 PM PST

Q u o t e:

so he doesn't randomly run around? Does he follow the tank? or top threat?

Erm, the tank is the top threat, so yes he will run to the tank :).

Balthar

< Daes Daemar >

Echo Isles

92. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 01:59:57 PM PST

Q u o t e:
-- This isn't a healing fight at the end of the day. It's a movement and coordination fight, much like Murmur in Shadow Labs.

Exactly... I always start my Loken explanation by "do you all remember Heroic Murmur?"

Mormegil

< Morituri Te Salutamu… >

Shandris

93. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:00:18 PM PST

If you have healed T6 pre 3.0 then here is a very very easy strat that is almost foolproof:

1. Tank Loken in the center of the circle right in front of his throne.

2. Everybody stands on top of the tank and dps except the holy paladin who stands the the terminal edge of where the lightning nova will be. Holy paladin beacons so that the tank and paladin are being healed together.

3. Lightning nova is begining to cast, everybody except the tank runs to the paladin (tank continues to tank), waits for the nova to go off and runs back to the tank. If you healed T6 content pre 3.0 and have experience healing as a holy paladin, then healing through the nova is easy.

4. The only thing moving is your dps. If they are not completely clueless and runs past the paladin, healing isn't too bad. Rinse and repeat til dead. Loken doesn't move, and burn him down. This is also a surefire way to get the acheivement because if you don't kill him within 2 minutes you wont kill him. Works every time. TBH this is my favorite way to fight him because it is easy and lasts less than 2 min.

Leorah

< Odyssey >

Argent Dawn

94. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:01:28 PM PST

Q u o t e:

/shrug YMMV then. The time that I did it on a PUG group with a paladin healer (I was ret and also helping to heal) we died to arc lightning more than anything else because we were doing the 'stack up and run around together' strat. It didn't seem possible to stack (even loosely) and not get hit by arc lightning.

Arc Lightning killed my group more times than the explosion as well. The strategy that finally worked for us:

Our death knight tank kept Loken at the throne. He didn't run out during the explosion, he stayed put and had an anti-magic shield when it was available.

Our DPS was mostly casters. We all spread out in a semi-circle just outside of melee range, so we were far enough apart not to hit each other with the arc lightning.

When Loken started to cast the explosion, we ran to the edge of the stairs. That's just about exactly 20 yards from the throne, and just out of range. Then we ran back in to position.

I Baconed the tank and healed the heck out of everyone else.

Once we had the positioning down, the fight wasn't that bad. Until then... that was the most wipes we've had in any heroic.

Ciela

Muradin

95. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:02:41 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Here is a strategy I have seen used a lot on heroic Loken with a paladin healing.

-- Everyone moves to melee together. The paladin casts Beacon on himself.
-- When you get the emote for Lightning Nova, everyone moves back together.
-- There is often a misperception that Lightning Nova has a huge range. It doesn't. You don't have to move far.
-- You also don't need to run back to Loken. Let him come to you. Then next Lightning Nova, move backwards again. You can do a slow kite all the way around the globe if you need to.

This is basically the strategy that my group used last night w/ a Holy Paladin and it worked out just fine. *shrug* Maybe that guy was just a godly healer or something.

Macmoran

< Ardent Crusader >

Feathermoon

96. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:06:25 PM PST

Q u o t e:
If you have healed T6 pre 3.0 then here is a very very easy strat that is almost foolproof:

1. Tank Loken in the center of the circle right in front of his throne.

2. Everybody stands on top of the tank and dps except the holy paladin who stands the the terminal edge of where the lightning nova will be. Holy paladin beacons so that the tank and paladin are being healed together.

3. Lightning nova is begining to cast, everybody except the tank runs to the paladin (tank continues to tank), waits for the nova to go off and runs back to the tank. If you healed T6 content pre 3.0 and have experience healing as a holy paladin, then healing through the nova is easy.

4. The only thing moving is your dps. If they are not completely clueless and runs past the paladin, healing isn't too bad. Rinse and repeat til dead. Loken doesn't move, and burn him down. This is also a surefire way to get the acheivement because if you don't kill him within 2 minutes you wont kill him. Works every time. TBH this is my favorite way to fight him because it is easy and lasts less than 2 min.

This is similar to the strategy I use to great effect. The variation I use is that the tank moves with the DPS and I stand at a different location to where they will be running between.

I never have to move, heal myself through the aura with beacon and am in range to catch DPSers who run the wrong way.

I laughed. I QQed.

Lockslyn

< Dark Legion >

Terokkar

97. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:10:28 PM PST

Q u o t e:
-- This isn't a healing fight at the end of the day. It's a movement and coordination fight, much like Murmur in Shadow Labs.

I think this is where a big beef of healers comes into play. YOU may think it's not a healing fight, but a coordination fight. However, what that usually translates into is it becoming a healing fight. I daresay a majority of groups will not be coordinated enough to actually get the strat down correctly unless you run with the same people a lot, or they'll be too impatient to try to learn it if they can brute force heal it instead.

Ownos

Bronzebeard

98. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:10:43 PM PST

You can reduce the damage arc lightning does if you spread out when running from him to prevent it from spreading further. This will hopefully prevent it growing too big to heal (unless you want to try your luck). 3 arc lightnings stacked on one person due to bad luck = gibbed.

In a perfect situation you're always spread out just enough so the debuff doesn't spread.

A lot of people forget about arc lightning and IMO is what is killing most people.

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Kel'Thuzad

99. Re: Healing Halls of LIghtning as Holy Palad 12/15/2008 02:11:06 PM PST

oh i just gave up on this one, plus the associated recipies and achievements, until i'm supergeared. Not healer friendly given current nerf (AAAAAAARGH, SEEHEALER=NERF). Will wait til blizz gets over current fad.

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