As somebody who would really like to raid as arcane I'd like to see arcane blast be a viable nuke.

It has to do higher damage than 18pt talented fireball/frostbolt.

It was mentioned at blizzcon that arcane would have mobility, but playing as arcane and being tied to having to start your cast time nuke as soon as you fire off your arcane barrage gives you a 1.5s window of mobility.

I'd like to see something like a modifcation of the old AB mechanics having 3 stacks scale to instant cast 2.5->1.75->instant, and having the debuff be long enough so it doesnt fall off between arcane barrages but does during MBarr procs.

Itd be an interesting mechanic to ramp up damage and increase mobility in PVE.

having to stack the debuff before its instant cast would keep its use in pvp scaled

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We're working on Arcane Blast, but we need to test it some more before we have any announcements.

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YAY!!! Thank you!!!

I have an odd feeling that all these mages so hell-bent on PvEing as arcane (even though frostfire bolt is and will remain the best mage PvE spec) are going to get the arcane PvP mages nerfed. So props to the PvE mages i truly hope you get mages their nerf from the inside since us classes on the outside so far have failed to do so.

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I have an odd feeling that all these mages so hell-bent on PvEing as arcane (even though frostfire bolt is and will remain the best mage PvE spec) are going to get the arcane PvP mages nerfed. So props to the PvE mages i truly hope you get mages their nerf from the inside since us classes on the outside so far have failed to do so.

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/shoo

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I have an odd feeling that all these mages so hell-bent on PvEing as arcane (even though frostfire bolt is and will remain the best mage PvE spec) are going to get the arcane PvP mages nerfed. So props to the PvE mages i truly hope you get mages their nerf from the inside since us classes on the outside so far have failed to do so.

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Yes, because having only 1 viable raid spec is fresh and exciting.... Just ask every hybrid out there...

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Yes, because having only 1 viable raid spec is fresh and exciting.... Just ask every hybrid out there...

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Regardless of how many viable specs you have 1 spec will always be "the best". Therefore anyone who doesn't spec it simply hurts there own dps. Sure if they change the arcane tree it might be viable for PvE but it's dumb to spec something just because it's viable when it still isn't the best. Speccing for lower dps is like purposely nerfing yourself. And besides Frostfire isn't the only viable raid spec, fire and frost specs are within like 5% damage of frostifre already leaving arcane as the ONLY non-viable raiding spec for mages atm.

Increased usefullness in PvE usually means deacreased usefulness in PvP. In my opinion, arcane should remain the the same to enshure legions of crazed PvP mages dont storm the damage dealing section complaing: "QQ THIS IS UNFAIR! WHY DID THEY NERF THE PVP SPEC! IF NOOB PVE-ER WANT TO PVE, GO SPEC FFB. EVERYONE KNOWS ITS THE PVE SPEC!".

you are right on top of things as always gc - clearly giving arcane mages much more damage is the most pressing and vital issue on all of wow.

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Regardless of how many viable specs you have 1 spec will always be "the best". Therefore anyone who doesn't spec it simply hurts there own dps. Sure if they change the arcane tree it might be viable for PvE but it's dumb to spec something just because it's viable when it still isn't the best. Speccing for lower dps is like purposely nerfing yourself. And besides Frostfire isn't the only viable raid spec, fire and frost specs are within like 5% damage of frostifre already leaving arcane as the ONLY non-viable raiding spec for mages atm.

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15-30 for frost... not 5.

The fact that you mentioned frost as a viable raid spec means you're either bad or ignorant. Either way, you probably shouldn't be posting.


You do realize , if you bring up Frost's mana regen you've already destroyed your point, because if frost was only 5%-10% behind FFB it would be both viable and not "the best".

The entire change in design philosophy revolved around bringing the player. If a more mobile spec like arcane could do patchwork with only a 200-300 dps (5-10%) dps loss, it may in fact be worthwhile to bring for fights such as Sapphiron where you're required to be much more mobile.

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Increased usefullness in PvE usually means deacreased usefulness in PvP. In my opinion, arcane should remain the the same to enshure legions of crazed PvP mages dont storm the damage dealing section complaing: "QQ THIS IS UNFAIR! WHY DID THEY NERF THE PVP SPEC! IF NOOB PVE-ER WANT TO PVE, GO SPEC FFB. EVERYONE KNOWS ITS THE PVE SPEC!".

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Frost will likely remain the optimal PVP spec once gear and resilience get factored in. This once again leaves arcane without a home... for the third expansion in a row.

A direct buff to arcane blast is needed....not a buff attached with a nerf, which usually ends up being more of a nerf.

Arcane is behind Frostfire for PVE

Arcane is behind Frost for PVP

Arcane needs direct buffs. Have it increase crit chance of all arcane spells by 10>20>30% for each cast and lower cast time to 1.5 seconds and the buff last 10 seconds.

I'm all for this but, really.

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A direct buff to arcane blast is needed....not a buff attached with a nerf, which usually ends up being more of a nerf.

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So buff the entire warlock class and we'll call it even.

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Arcane is behind Frostfire for PVE.

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You sum up one spell to be behind an entire tree, interesting. Arcane is weak in PvE aspect, but this is just silly.

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Arcane is behind Frost for PVP

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Your opinion is absolute. This is 100% true.

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Arcane needs direct buffs. Have it increase crit chance of all arcane spells by 10>20>30% for each cast and lower cast time to 1.5 seconds and the buff last 10 seconds.

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Thank god! Now you can cast this 1.5 seconds and have an instant crit with your next arcane barrage. Really, many ideas are valid, this one isn't.

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A direct buff to arcane blast is needed....not a buff attached with a nerf, which usually ends up being more of a nerf.

Arcane is behind Frostfire for PVE

Arcane is behind Frost for PVP

Arcane needs direct buffs. Have it increase crit chance of all arcane spells by 10>20>30% for each cast and lower cast time to 1.5 seconds and the buff last 10 seconds.

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Crit is really a minimal stat for Arcane. I like the idea their going with, the AB mechanic is basically "Pay for Power", but it got fudged in wotlk with lots of "Pay" and no real "Power".

They have all the mechanics and itemization built in to support such a playstyle. The massive spirit gear and 80% in combat mana regen is perfect. What they don't have is a viable spell to make use of it all.

My Idea was a "Reverse AB".. Basically Arcane Blast gets an increase in cast time and mana consumption, along with a noticeable increase in overall DPS.

So.

2.5 Sec normal
3.0 Sec +50% Damage + 200% mana
3.5 Sec +100% Damage + 400% mana

With this sort of mechanic Arcane would be forced to plant their feet much longer then an FFB spec to achieve comparable DPS, they would also achieve said DPS with Massive Mana pools and Mana Regen.. not Crit.

The flipside is, they would also remain mobile, but at the reduced DPS inherent in simple AB + Abar Rotations we've gotten used to. IT would be an outlier spec.. doign well on fights where you either stand and cast, or move constantly but outdone in just about every other aspect.

LEts also remember that Arcane brings the least raid utility out of any other spec so should not be punished excessively for its mobility or burst potential.

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Regardless of how many viable specs you have 1 spec will always be "the best". Therefore anyone who doesn't spec it simply hurts there own dps. Sure if they change the arcane tree it might be viable for PvE but it's dumb to spec something just because it's viable when it still isn't the best. Speccing for lower dps is like purposely nerfing yourself. And besides Frostfire isn't the only viable raid spec, fire and frost specs are within like 5% damage of frostifre already leaving arcane as the ONLY non-viable raiding spec for mages atm.

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For a long time both fire and arcane specs were considered viable in T5 content.

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Every good mage that I've spoken to, myself included, thinks that Arcane needs to be nerfed. This includes people that have won thousands of dollars while playing Arcane, and every 2300+ Mage I know.

You're hearing the very vocal majority of terrible players claiming it is fine. I look forward to a redesigned Arcane Blast that takes the punch out of Arcane Barrage in PvP.

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You are an amazing player and I worship you.