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  • Dragonblight
  • 0. [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/28/2008 10:38:16 AM PST
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A friend and I recently identified a bug with the rogue talent 'Master Poisoner' - it is adding 3% incoming crit to poisoned targets for *each* stack of deadly poison for a total of 15% extra crit.

WWS from autoattacking a lvl 80 dummy with a 1h sword and maxed sword skill
http://wowwebstats.com/jukbydxzqy461
~6% crit rate

WWS from autoattacking with the same gear on a lvl 80 dummy with a constant 5 stacks of deadly poison
http://wowwebstats.com/crxrncnopskhc
~19% crit rate

tests with trying to keep 3 stacks on the target were innaccurate at best, but were showing around a 7-9% increase over the baseline.

Please note that fixing this talent will result in a 12% overall reduction of raid dps compared to current levels. I'd suggest looking at how it will effect finely tuned dps checks before fixing this one ;p

[ Post edited by Noms ]


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  • Dragonblight
  • 1. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 03:54:00 AM PST
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bump. I'd rather see this taken care of now than when it will massively effect raiding~

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  • Dragonblight
  • 2. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 05:48:17 AM PST
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does ANYONE care that rogues are giving 12% extra crit to their raids? I looked and looked - this issue was raised on the beta forums and ignored. PLEASE fix this now before content becomes more than faceroll.

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  • Blackhand
  • 3. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 11:48:29 AM PST
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I can confirm this bug. It is also possible that multiple rogues having this talent will stack it even further. Not quite sure about that one yet though.
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  • Blackhand
  • 4. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 12:47:38 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
I can confirm this bug. It is also possible that multiple rogues having this talent will stack it even further. Not quite sure about that one yet though.


Tested with multiple stacks of deadly, they definitely do stack 3% crit for each application on every stack.
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  • Dragonblight
  • 5. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 02:28:09 PM PST
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Q u o t e:


Tested with multiple stacks of deadly, they definitely do stack 3% crit for each application on every stack.


Confirmed. 30% over my paper doll on patchwerk last night running two muta rogues.

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  • Blackhand
  • 6. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/29/2008 11:13:18 PM PST
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This bug is pretty game breaking. Just a few mutilate rogues and you've got anywhere from 15-60% crit to every dps player in the raid. Sure, the Loatheb Spore buff is fun, but having it permanently is pretty ridiculous.

This bug has been in since at least the 3.0 release. Seems like a long time for no one to notice, but I suppose things get overlooked occasionally. Still, it'd be nice if something as completely broken as this got acknowledged a little faster once it is found.
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  • Frostwolf
  • 7. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/30/2008 12:24:19 AM PST
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This bug is pretty ridiculous. Brings fun fun time on my rogue but really needs to be fixed.


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  • 8. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/30/2008 09:36:32 PM PST
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BUMP

Needs to be known
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  • Magtheridon
  • 9. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   11/30/2008 10:48:43 PM PST
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How about leaving my raid utility alone until they fix the other problems rogues have first.

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  • Cenarius
  • 10. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 08:16:11 AM PST
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Game breaking bug.

Bump.
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  • Blackhand
  • 12. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 11:47:37 AM PST
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Bump since this is game breaking.
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  • 13. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 11:53:01 AM PST
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there's no need to bump this...they read the forum constantly - chances are they have read this.

But rogue DPS in raids still seems a good 10-20% lower than hunter and mage DPS....so maybe it's not a high priority issue at the moment.
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  • 14. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 11:55:28 AM PST
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maybe these raid encounters weren't so easy after all?

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  • 15. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 11:56:28 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
there's no need to bump this...they read the forum constantly - chances are they have read this.

But rogue DPS in raids still seems a good 10-20% lower than hunter and mage DPS....so maybe it's not a high priority issue at the moment.


they are adding the 15% crit to EVERY dps class in the raid. Not only rogues are getting this increase.

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  • Dragonblight
  • 17. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 02:08:58 PM PST
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back to the top? =O

anything to make naxx harder...

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  • Blackwater Raiders
  • 18. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 02:20:27 PM PST
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they are adding the 15% crit to EVERY dps class in the raid. Not only rogues are getting this increase.


I thought casters, unless specific spells get talented, only see a 50% damage increase when they crit.

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  • 19. Re: [BUG] Master Poisoner +15% crit   12/01/2008 02:42:35 PM PST
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Stop bumping this, they might actually read it and fix it.

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