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  • 100. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:05:16 PM PST
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Prove it.

All PvE content in LK has already been cleared


How many Black Proto Drakes are out there?
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  • 101. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:10:54 PM PST
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It's funny when someone says I like the hunters and druids more. You should ask the hunters and druids. :(

This is why we try to discourage you from commenting on which topics or posts we respond to. It's just not helpful in the long run. Even if I kept a running tally of every class I responded to every day to make sure everybody got a cookie, then the problem would be that some response weren't substantive enough, or didn't address PvP (or PvE), or weren't polite enough or whatever.

Sometimes posts get blue responses. I really wouldn't try to read between the lines on it beyond that.
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  • Thaurissan
  • 102. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:11:08 PM PST
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Ive been playing nice, and not so nice for weeks, not, with varrying degrees of aggressive threads, nothing seems to get a response lately unless you're a hunter.



Hunters have been "playing nice, and not so nice" since a month before BC was released... you have a year and 49 weeks to go before you can play the "we've gotten less attention" card.



It's a slippery slope, and hunters were shoved towards the bottom in 1.8, kicked in the head when we tried to climb out in 2.0, and sat on by the fat kid called areans all Burning Crusade long.
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  • 103. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:18:46 PM PST
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Basically since wrath came out the only pure DPS class that can seem to get any answers are hunters, that simply isn't being very fair, we ALL have issues and should have some of our issues addressed too.


Till recently dev's wouldn't give hunters the time of day and typically tip toed around underlining hunter concerns on beta. Grow up and stop being self centered.
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  • 104. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:26:25 PM PST
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It's funny when someone says I like the hunters and druids more. You should ask the hunters and druids. :(

This is why we try to discourage you from commenting on which topics or posts we respond to. It's just not helpful in the long run. Even if I kept a running tally of every class I responded to every day to make sure everybody got a cookie, then the problem would be that some response weren't substantive enough, or didn't address PvP (or PvE), or weren't polite enough or whatever.

Sometimes posts get blue responses. I really wouldn't try to read between the lines on it beyond that.


@Tamira: This is the kind of response you will get with this type of thread. GC just had to post the same basic statement he has been making since beta.

At this point it should just be your sig GC :C. I am sorry people just can't seem to grasp that complaining about how you post gets everyone no where fast. Enjoy the following comments of "You comment didn't say what I wanted it to say".

I have leet arena ratings
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  • Thaurissan
  • 105. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:27:02 PM PST
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Imo if hunters do indeed make up a larger percentile of the population than any other class WHY IS THAT ? I mean honestly they must offer something pretty dam sweet and the issue's must be small for people not to reroll another class after given 2+ years to do so.





Your logic fails.

Most hunters have re-rolled.

I personally have three toons (soon to be five) that are higher-leveled than my main (a hunter). Doesn't mean my hunter is well-balanced and fun to play. In fact, it means the opposite.





It's a slippery slope, and hunters were shoved towards the bottom in 1.8, kicked in the head when we tried to climb out in 2.0, and sat on by the fat kid called areans all Burning Crusade long.
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  • 107. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:34:35 PM PST
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GCs last comment on Hunters is that we may be getting nerfed again because Mages are whining.

Is that the type of attention you want?
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  • 108. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:38:45 PM PST
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GCs last comment on Hunters is that we may be getting nerfed again because Mages are whining.



That's not what he said.

On the forums, your PvP flag is always on.
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  • 109. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:38:53 PM PST
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It's funny when someone says I like the hunters and druids more. You should ask the hunters and druids. :(


Can't speak for the druids but I can attest to the forest of hunter pitchforks & torches that follow you around.

Hopefully the point gets taken by the OP and his Smothers Brothers

"MOM ALWAYS DID LIKE YOU BEST!"

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  • 110. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:52:49 PM PST
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the only reason why hunters are re-rolls is because players want to level fast and have cool pets.

I re-rolled cuase i love ranged combat. having a pet is a cookie.

I dont think GC well nerf because you demand it because you do less DPS. Nerfs and buffs only happen when needed. a simple demand wont work. From what I go form the blue posts is that changes wont happen for a long time. So suck it up.

Are things really unbalanced? yup
Are things Are hunters on the lower end for arena? May be imbalanced but not sure by how much until we are well into the season
Are they coming up with ways to balance it out? Sure, but its not going to happen overnight
Do I think hunters are on the lower end of PvP arena? Yup, but that makes hunters all about skill now. Time to learn how to outsmart a rogue.

(When you use your freezing arrow, try to aim where they are. You well find better results if you freeze them now and not latter)

Cannot do that while stunned
Cannot do that while stunned
Cannot do that while stunned
Cannot do that while stunned
Disengage.... darn i can't fire, i got DISMANTLED
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  • 111. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:54:00 PM PST
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It's funny when someone says I like the hunters and druids more. You should ask the hunters and druids. :(

This is why we try to discourage you from commenting on which topics or posts we respond to. It's just not helpful in the long run. Even if I kept a running tally of every class I responded to every day to make sure everybody got a cookie, then the problem would be that some response weren't substantive enough, or didn't address PvP (or PvE), or weren't polite enough or whatever.

Sometimes posts get blue responses. I really wouldn't try to read between the lines on it beyond that.


Yeah darn you GC druids hates you!

JK <3

GC pretty much roams the forums and addresses threads that appear to have a good direction to them and sometimes responds to ones that are just bad bad bad. Certain classes have more issues in a given patch and more posts need to relate to calm the class down so they know about upcoming changes. Druids have recently gone through major changes in feral and balance. And even a good few resto. Hunters I don't know a ton about but i know a lot of their shots and aspects have changed so I'm sure they have deserved all the posts just like druids.

GJ GC imo

"Similarly, we don't want classes to be too similar" As said by GC
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  • Lightning's Blade
  • 112. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 01:55:09 PM PST
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To paraphrase a line from Robin Williams...
The OP is in more dire need of a BJ than any lock in history.

Serioulsy, relax a little. You don't think hunter's have felt the same frustrations or have felt that the devs don't care or listen about their class? Or any class for that matter.
Your passion for your class is making your biased and blind to logic or at least common sense.
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  • Thaurissan
  • 113. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 07:14:26 PM PST
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everybody got a cookie


Did someone say cookie?

Bornakk can i please have a cookie?

GC said i could have a cookie - please refer to my totally out of context quote above...

/hugs
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  • 114. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 07:24:43 PM PST
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It's funny when someone says I like the hunters and druids more. You should ask the hunters and druids. :(

This is why we try to discourage you from commenting on which topics or posts we respond to. It's just not helpful in the long run. Even if I kept a running tally of every class I responded to every day to make sure everybody got a cookie, then the problem would be that some response weren't substantive enough, or didn't address PvP (or PvE), or weren't polite enough or whatever.

Sometimes posts get blue responses. I really wouldn't try to read between the lines on it beyond that.


Freud would say that your unconscious secretly favors some classes, and that this is expressed in your desire to post more often and/or with more substance to certain classes. You are correct, there's nothing between the lines, however under them is an entirely different matter. So hah! We've found you out! You think you know you, but you don't even know how little you know of your own self! Nosce te ipsum!

Then again, Freud also thought that cocaine was a miracle drug.

On a more serious note, it's amazing how much you people strive for his attention. Really, it's just pathetic...

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  • 115. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 10:03:24 PM PST
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I think hes lying, there is no way he reads everything, and if he did, he must take perverse please in giving a cryptic answer to a question months ago and just watch as locks continuously ask what he meant by that comment several times a day.

And I have been posting feedback on the game for a long time, what's the point if they don't get answered either?


Why would you want a response from him if all you think he's going to do is lie to you? Stop acting like a child, level to 80, and test the mechanics for yourself. Running Naxx this week with my guild, (Cleared to Sapph in 2 raid nights) as a Survival Hunter for replenishment, in Equal Gear with the rest of my raid mates, save the Death Knight, my DPS was on top for most of the fights.

However, I know my class, I have the Survival Rotation down, I pop my trinkets and cooldowns when they're up. I've raided Scholomance with my Hunter. I've cleared every instance Pre-Wrath, at the appropriate levels.

Like I said earlier, you're being a child. Grow up. The Hunter forums have gone MONTHS without a Blue Post. It doesn't mean that we weren't being listened to. The same applies here. Quit whining.
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  • 116. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/20/2008 10:56:09 PM PST
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if this is how he treats classes he likes, i'd hate to see what he does to the ones he hates..

o wait, look at hunters arena in wotlk......i take that back lulz!
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  • 117. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/21/2008 12:36:26 AM PST
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Blizz loves us, don't you know?

"..so GC and him work as a team then to nerf hunters?" -my lovely wife
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  • 119. Re: GC like hunters more than other Pure DPS?   11/21/2008 04:56:59 AM PST
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That's what annoys me about the fourms - you never have a conversation with other players - players aren't trying to talk with each other to generate solutions for anything. The only time when players talk t other players on these forums is to say "you're dumb, I don't need a nerf, you do. If ____ are/is a problem for you, then just (insert class ability with long CD)"

What if every person you encountered IRL and tried to have a conversation with replied with "excuse me, I can't pay attention to you right now, I'm praying to God to win the lottery -- but he likes people like Bill Gates more because they have more money than I do. Anyway, don't interrupt my prayer."

On the box, it mentions new content - like leveling to 80, a new class, new professions. I guess they should have also put "new forums to QQ on 24/7," since that part of the game seems to be what some players enjoy most.

I was very disappointed to hit 80 and use freezing arrow. Mages got a proxy of something a boss might do just before they die - warriors got a leet weapon throw that doesn't require them to go to the person they threw their weapon at to retrieve it, and hunters got an ice trap more or less like the one they get at level 20. Oh well maybe our level 90 ability will be super distracting shot since our ultimate abilities are always for pve.

Whenever any blue poster acknowledges a hunter thread, the response is always "we don't want hunters able to X. " For all other classes they have an idea of what they want for that class, and how to make it distinct for others. Hunters are a class full of "we don't wants/we can't haves," that's why we don't have that many hunters anymore - the only thing most people know about the class is they don't want to be it.

Just look at the CC and pvp mechanics - the philosophy for the class is kite. Other players behave just like mobs with much smarter pathing. When people see a hunter, the theory is that they are kitable because they lock on and try to get that easy kill. The devs then force your CC to require kiting, ability to do damage in pvp to revolve around kiting; despite the fact that kiting is ALWAYS defensive. If you're going to die, then just forget about the hunter by running the other way - hunters have very limited tools for pursuing someone, and because they are better spent defensively, even if you started to run the other way for a short while, you can just change your mind when you see that that critical cd used isn't going to stop you from getting away, or that the hunter used disengage to move forward instead of backwards, now doesn't have it, and is closer for you to kill. Hunters are meant to be chased. They are actually the hunted.

And even despite that, all the melee classes that don't have charge/intercept can move 15% faster as a standard. There is no survivability to magic damage in any tree. Basically, hunters are meant to be food for the other 9 classes. IF GC likes hunters more than Pure dps classes, then how would that situation have every come to be in the first place?

One of his posts mentioned that he would like to level his own character to 80 in the meantime. I bet you this character of his is not a hunter.
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