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  • 0. Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin changes   11/24/2008 09:18:24 AM PST
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We have already announced or suggested all of these changes would be forthcoming in the next minor content patch. I thought I would list them all in one place for ease of use.

Divine Shield: Penalty changed so that all damage done is reduced by 50% instead of a attack speed penalty.

1) Divine Protection no longer causes an attack penalty. Divine Shield's penalty was changed to 50% less damage done by the paladin.

2) Sacred Duty: This Protection talent no longer affects the attack penalty of Divine Shield and Divine Protection, but grants additional bonus Stamina.

3) Avenging Wrath, Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Hand of Protection have a shared, 30-second cooldown. The Forbearance effect is no longer triggered by Avenging Wrath.

CLARIFICATION: You can use Hand of Protection while under the shared cooldown. You just can't use it on yourself.

4) Judgement of Wisdom now returns a percentage of base mana instead of a percentage of max mana.

5) All mana drain effects now return a percentage of max enemy mana (making mana drains less punishing to paladins and other characters without large mana pools.)

6) Judgements of the Pure: This Holy talent now increases the damage done by Seals and Judgements in addition to its current effects.

7) Hand of Judgement - All paladins receive a single-target, 30 yard taunt on an 8 sec cooldown. This spell also does minor Holy damage in order to break CC and the like for pulling ease.

EDIT: Clarified HoJ, J o' Pure and taunt.

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  • 1. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:21:20 AM PST
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Oh God yes!

Wow... First first...

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  • 2. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:23:24 AM PST
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Great! Now I can play my pally right?

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  • Tichondrius
  • 3. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:24:03 AM PST
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I'm not a big fan of the 30 second shared cooldown (I think that the buffs should overwrite each other in the case of Divine Shield and Avenging Wrath) but that is better than nothing.

I hope those mana changes will make Ret more self-sufficient at 80.

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  • 4. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:24:36 AM PST
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Edit: And I'm an idiot.

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  • Laughing Skull
  • 5. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:24:37 AM PST
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11pt Prot talent? Not even a hint on what you guys are thinking of/is it already trashed?
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  • 6. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:24:37 AM PST
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Pretty nice changes. Much needed, imo.
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  • Dark Iron
  • 7. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:25:11 AM PST
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Thanks for the update. Any new word on Gap closer?

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  • 8. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:26:10 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
4) Judgement of Wisdom now returns a percentage of base mana instead of a percentage of max mana.



Isn't this a nerf or will the percentage of mana return be increased?
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  • 9. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:26:20 AM PST
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7) All paladins receive a single-target taunt (name TBD) as a base ability.


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  • Tichondrius
  • 10. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:26:24 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Thanks for the update. Any new word on Gap closer?
I hope this will be addressed as well.

Otherwise, the changes are decent.
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  • 11. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:26:35 AM PST
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sweet. Kind of hoping for an 11 point talent, but i'll take the taunt and more stamina.

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  • 12. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:26:59 AM PST
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You get mana as you level up. So, it will change though not significantly, look into rings, necklace, gems and enchants if your mana is seriously lacking.

We are hybrids, and as such we have MORE stats to worry about than pure melee do.

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  • 13. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:27:32 AM PST
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Overall good changes GC, thanks :) Single Taunt has been needed so that will be very very useful. Thanks!

Question about :

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Judgement of Wisdom now returns a percentage of base mana instead of a percentage of max mana.



Is this another nerf? I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with this...... At least so far there has been some QQ about mana for ret paladins to the point where they are now itemizing Hunter gear to stack Intellect. Is this a nerf or can you or someone explain.

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  • 14. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:29:59 AM PST
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So wait

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When you say:

Q u o t e:

5) All mana drain effects now return a percentage of max enemy mana (making mana drains less punishing to paladins and other characters without large mana pools.)


Are you talking about Viper sting being toned down but returning mana to the hunter?
Or did you just word that wrong and mean the drain is going to be based off the mana pool and not a fixed number>?

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  • Tichondrius
  • 15. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:30:32 AM PST
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Q u o t e:



Is this another nerf? I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with this...... At least so far there has been some QQ about mana for ret paladins to the point where they are now itemizing Hunter gear to stack Intellect. Is this a nerf or can you or someone explain.
I hope this is not a nerf. If the change is to base mana, then will the percentage be increased to compensate because JoW isn't exactly the most useful ability at the moment.
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  • 17. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:32:43 AM PST
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Divine Shield: Penalty changed so that all damage done is reduced by 50% instead of a attack speed penalty.

This was needed,since the attack speed was useless thanks to paladin unloading instant attack which defeat the purpose. :)

Also like the overall change to mana drain effect,since it help retribution and also feral druid. :D
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  • Dark Iron
  • 19. Re: Consolidated list of upcoming Paladin cha   11/24/2008 09:33:55 AM PST
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Also, shouldn't this be in the Paladin section of the forums?

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