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You should talk to a blacksmith, that gear is sufficient for the early dungeons and there is definitely gear to get from quests and higher levels to keep instance grinding viable. Also your current level 70 tanking gear could work for the very early dungeons depending on the quality.

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Proof that CMs don't have a clue outside what their scripted sheets say. The blacksmithing gear is horrible. Yes if someone in T6 resockets for defense then thier gear would band-aid them into 80 dungeons. The problem people are saying is as far as tanking gear is concerned there is hardly NO tanking gear to bridge the gap between regular dungeons onto heroics/Naxx10 that is available from dungeons..so tanks aren't going to want to run them often.

<--- will level prot and pug anything at least once

i'll be using a mix of tanking and dps gear, which should provide a nice mix between soloing speed and survivability

How much tank gear do you need to level prot up to 70 right now? Same will be for up to 80. Lower level instances are designed and tuned so you can heal / tank them with the gear that's available.


Will be tanking them on my druid btw.

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Proof that CMs don't have a clue outside what their scripted sheets say. The blacksmithing gear is horrible. Yes if someone in T6 resockets for defense then thier gear would band-aid them into 80 dungeons. The problem people are saying is as far as tanking gear is concerned there is hardly NO tanking gear to bridge the gap between regular dungeons onto heroics/Naxx10 that is available from dungeons..so tanks aren't going to want to run them often.

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This came from TBC. You dont need to outgear the dungeon to tank it. Surprisingly, a tank in all blues is geared enough to tank heroics, since they were kind of desinged to come BEFORE raids

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Who seriously intends on tanking lolnonheroiclevelling instances in TANK gear? Tank gear is for progression. Tanking in DPS gear is XP, quest rewards, speed, and fun. Besides, with the homogenization of healer gear, EVERYONE can help keep me up easier, and like half of the people out there WILL be capable of healing an instance in DPS gear, as a dps spec, so no one's left out. (Ret paladin in healing gear, ele shaman in ele gear healing, priests :O, druids I dunno about, but who wants to leave cuddly bears out of the loop?)

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Some of the level 70 instances were pretty brutal in greens. And the jump to heroics at the begining of TBC was ridiculous too.

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I really dislike that... I hate having that 'Made By' tag on my gear. There's something that's very unnerving about it, like I didn't work for it myself. <shrug> I dunno, guess I'm just a weird dude like that.

That being said, the loot tables on instances bosses seems terribly small right now... I'm not sure if I like that, either.

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Sell the gear to a vendor
Buy the gear back from the 2nd tab

BAM, the tag is gone

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Basically zero tanking gear in any of the instances. A few pieces from quests but almost ALL of the drops are dps. Thanks for yet again shafting tanks on loot!

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Here are some plate tanking drops from dungeons:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=qu=3;cr=42:18:131:2:86:92:17;crs=1:5:1:1:12:2:-2324;crv=0:0:0:0:0:0:0#0+7+1

Tons of tanking gear drops.

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Here are some plate tanking drops from dungeons:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=qu=3;cr=42:18:131:2:86:92:17;crs=1:5:1:1:12:2:-2324;crv=0:0:0:0:0:0:0#0+7+1

Tons of tanking gear drops.

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That's sarcasm, right? There are 7 items in that query that are pre-80

Hmm, looks like the OP was wrong. I'm seeing a lot of tanks here.

At level 70, you can assemble a green "starter" tanking set from the "Cobalt" set crafted by blacksmiths. It only requires cobalt (the fel iron of Northrend) and requires less than 375 blacksmithing skill to craft. You can fill in the gaps with high stamina quest reward items.

At level 74, you can start upgrading the Cobalt set to the blue "Tempered Saronite" set. It's at about this stage in Northrend that you start seeing specifically tanking oriented quest rewards. Meanwhile there are tanking drops in many of the outland dungeons along the way. So even starting from absolutely nothing (like Death Knights), you can have full reasonably good tanking set by the time you hit 80.

The "levelling up" dungeons aren't particularly difficult. With the right gear, any tanking class could probably tank them irrespective of spec.

Finding a tank for an instance won't be a problem in Wrath. Finding a healer might be.

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That's sarcasm, right? There are 7 items in that query that are pre-80

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Duh, you don't need heavy tanking gear to do level-up dungeons. They are designed such that tanks who are leveling up with DPS gear merely need to equip a shield.

TBC only had FOUR items that were pre-70:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=qu=3;maxrl=69;cr=42:18:110:2:86:92:17;crs=1:5:1:1:12:2:-2324;crv=0:0:0:0:0:0:0

First, dps gear IS tanking gear in leveling instances. Throw on a shield and you're fine. You don't need uncrittable or 100% avoidance to tank these things.

Second, there actually is a fair amount of tank gear in those instances, I got my warrior to 78 and I got several tank upgrades along the way.

I was in the beta with this character and tanked Utgarde and Nexus in the green quest rewards from HF just to see if it was as easy as people said, and it was.

I did lose aggro a couple times from a well geared Ret pally, pre-nerfs, no one else got close in threat though. After the ret nerfs, no one will be able to come close to threat to any of the tanks.

Just make sure you have stamina on your gear, because some of the bosses still hit pretty hard.

The tanking drops in the non-Heroics is a little thin on the ground, but the instances are tuned to be quite easy on non-Heroic. From what I heard, any half-competent tank in blues & greens from 70 would be fine tanking anything up to 80.

Take a look at the Heroic loot tables and you'll find plenty of tanking gear. Hell, I think I counted no less than four tanking shields. Not sure why you'd need that many, but sure, why not?

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Prot, at least for warriors has received a significant buff in dps. I know several warriors that plan on leveling prot to 80.

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Wow, did you ever miss the point of this thread.

the OP is mentioning the lack of GEAR for PROT on the way to 80.

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I was in the beta with this character and tanked Utgarde and Nexus in the green quest rewards from HF just to see if it was as easy as people said, and it was.

I did lose aggro a couple times from a well geared Ret pally, pre-nerfs, no one else got close in threat though. After the ret nerfs, no one will be able to come close to threat to any of the tanks.

Just make sure you have stamina on your gear, because some of the bosses still hit pretty hard.

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Ditto, except my tank gear was from Bort quest rewards instead of Fjord. Its really a non issue if you know what you are doing.

Edit: I should mention that was on my DK.