Well.
Vanish and stealth totally broke , and blizz said that it wast and its working as intended (ok, we all know its totaly broke, but w/e).

Now Cloak of Shadows? I know when we used we still have a chance of 10% to get hit by spells , but i used and a lock used death coil , and put two dots on me WHEN i was using CoS. And it wasnt lucky. I realize after the patch , that CoS is really broke too.

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Well.
Vanish and stealth totally broke , and blizz said that it wast and its working as intended (ok, we all know its totaly broke, but w/e).

Now Cloak of Shadows? I know when we used we still have a chance of 10% to get hit by spells , but i used and a lock used death coil , and put two dots on me WHEN i was using CoS. And it wasnt lucky. I realize after the patch , that CoS is really broke too.

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Ihave yet to see COS not work... I have been raped over and over by it....

As much as I don't like to QQ on the boards, my cloak of shadows has been doing the same lately as well.
I'm seeing a lot more spells comming through.
Also my Vanish has been breaking over and over.

I made a macro
/stopattack
/cast Vanish and that hasnt seemed to help much either =/

wow I feel for you guys I really do.........HAHAHAAHAHAHAH

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Ihave yet to see COS not work... I have been raped over and over by it....

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For what the frost bs ? yea anything can get outa that.

Honestly no one cares. The devs don't care, the forums don't care, the trolls don't care. If a rogue ability isn't working expect it to be like that forever. Broken spells have been posted to death by rogues since forever and I'm sure everyone even the devs are numb to it by now. Just live with it.

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Honestly no one cares. The devs don't care, the forums don't care, the trolls don't care. If a rogue ability isn't working expect it to be like that forever. Broken spells have been posted to death by rogues since forever and I'm sure everyone even the devs are numb to it by now. Just live with it.

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We all understand this at this point.
I don't even know why I posted on the forum in the first place.

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We all understand this at this point.
I don't even know why I posted on the forum in the first place.

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Well I don't mean to give your hopes up but expect some things to never work.

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Whenever we have seen a problem like this in Cloak, it is usually because the CoS is used after the target spell is cast but before it lands. Because of the way the Internet itself is built, split-second timing like this is very subject to latency problems. Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you.

We'll take a look at Cloak of Shadows though and make sure it isn't being affected incorrectly by diminishing returns though.

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My experience is exactly this. I have noticed that if I get an Arcane barrage or missles off BEFORE the rogue cloaks, the barrage, and/or all missles hit even though the rogues is cloaked... simply because the cast started before the cloak. I'm not sure I agree it's working as intended, but if it boils down to latency I don't know what can fix it..

Also, GC ~ This mage is easily 3x more simple/reliable than my hunter who I have about 10x more experience playing. The hunter is way too complicated and don't get me started on the keybinds.. Not trying to hijack, but I am trying to get that issue into your head. The sheer number of keybind/macros/and pet micro are mindboggling. In addition all the hunter stuff is unreliable (traps, deterrance, disengage, 2GCD's to get anything out of chimera...just really doesn't work.

Whatever changes you may have coming for the hunter, think of mages / rogue abilities and the reliability of them.

Blink ( talented imp blink) is better than disengage and deterrance combined into 1 easy to use skill that is very reliable despite the failures on terrain sometimes, on a short CD, effects all DPS and is not positional.

Thank you GC for the quick response, I glad our class is beening kept fine tuned <3
Cant wait to destroy in arena at 80

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Q u o t e:
Whenever we have seen a problem like this in Cloak, it is usually because the CoS is used after the target spell is cast but before it lands. Because of the way the Internet itself is built, split-second timing like this is very subject to latency problems. Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you.

We'll take a look at Cloak of Shadows though and make sure it isn't being affected incorrectly by diminishing returns though.

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How does Divine Shield manage to not have this problem? I've never bubbled and had my paladin take damage at the same time, even after being focusfired on by 5+ people in an AV.

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Q u o t e:
Whenever we have seen a problem like this in Cloak, it is usually because the CoS is used after the target spell is cast but before it lands. Because of the way the Internet itself is built, split-second timing like this is very subject to latency problems. Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you.

We'll take a look at Cloak of Shadows though and make sure it isn't being affected incorrectly by diminishing returns though.

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Does this mean any spell cast in the air (i.e. frostbolt, fireball, arcane barrage etc...) that has yet to land will simply ignore Cloak of Shadows?

Does the same thing happen with Vanish? ....(Vanish for the past few iterations was explicitly said to negate incoming attacks).

Can this be fixed? I know it worked that way before, it's a distinct tactic that had been used.

Wow GC has responded, I feel liked :)

It may be possible that the cloak was used before the spell was cast but in my experience it was instant cast warlock dots that were getting through so I don't know if thats the case.

In any matter I suppose latency will give us these issues forever.

The only thing that annoys me is Vanish failing so often.

I pvp'd all day yesterday and I had it fail at least 5 times and had me thinking that something must be up here..

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Well.
Vanish and stealth totally broke , and blizz said that it wast and its working as intended (ok, we all know its totaly broke, but w/e).

Now Cloak of Shadows? I know when we used we still have a chance of 10% to get hit by spells , but i used and a lock used death coil , and put two dots on me WHEN i was using CoS. And it wasnt lucky. I realize after the patch , that CoS is really broke too.

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lol @ Vanish and Stealth being "totally broke"

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...the Internet disagrees with you.

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Blue win.

My favorite BG moment so far has been using CoS/Vanish and then having a succubus immediately bring me out of vanish with Seduce.

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Q u o t e:
Whenever we have seen a problem like this in Cloak, it is usually because the CoS is used after the target spell is cast but before it lands. Because of the way the Internet itself is built, split-second timing like this is very subject to latency problems. Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you.

We'll take a look at Cloak of Shadows though and make sure it isn't being affected incorrectly by diminishing returns though.

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That is why when designing a skill, developers should take latency into consideration and work around the problem... the internet is not stable all the time... so technically Cos/and spells like vanish are not working as intended but rather as intended and as allowed by external conditions not in the game.

It's not the most serious problem... but it is aggravating to have to wait such long cool downs for skills that are not always reliable.... paladin bubble has a long cooldown and thats reliable... never fails...never wavers always works.... in a sense cos and vanish = 1 paladin bubble
imagine if a paladins bubble where to fail unreliably constantly....

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Wow GC has responded, I feel liked :)

It may be possible that the cloak was used before the spell was cast but in my experience it was instant cast warlock dots that were getting through so I don't know if thats the case.

In any matter I suppose latency will give us these issues forever.

The only thing that annoys me is Vanish failing so often.

I pvp'd all day yesterday and I had it fail at least 5 times and had me thinking that something must be up here..

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clos isn't 100% and even at 90% there is a small chance that every dot the lock casts will land. Small but possible chance.

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Q u o t e:
Whenever we have seen a problem like this in Cloak, it is usually because the CoS is used after the target spell is cast but before it lands. Because of the way the Internet itself is built, split-second timing like this is very subject to latency problems. Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you.

We'll take a look at Cloak of Shadows though and make sure it isn't being affected incorrectly by diminishing returns though.

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its not an issue with the spell being in the air. cloak has never worked on a spell that had already been cast. this is an issue of MULTIPLE spells coming through cloak. thats some insane lag your game has when i'm getting hit with spells 3 seconds after i cloaked.