Well, aside from the overpowered...

A lot of healers seem to think that Holy Paladins want to be able to heal as well as Shamans and Priests in terms of AoE, or HoT as well as Druids.

They're argument is that we are better at single target healing than they are, so we shouldn't be good multi-target healers.

Well, no.

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Okay, I'd LOVE to be able to heal like a CoH priest while not losing my single target healing ability, and also be able to solo Kil'Jaeden wearing nothing but Winter Veil gear, but, well, being REASONABLE now...

Right now, there are two ways for a Holy Paladin to effectively heal multiple targets:

1: Use the FoL glyph as a pseudo-Regrowth spell, keep the HoT on everyone in the party in AoE damage situations and use Holy Shock and Holy Light as primary heals on the tank.

To really see if that'll work, we'd need Sacred Shield. Who knows? The nearly auto-crit proc for FoL on Sacred Shield might just make this a feasible strat. But:

FoL is our spam heal. Holy Shock is on a 6s CD. Holy Light is our "HOLY F***ING GOD THE TANKS GOING TO DIE NOW NOW NOW AAAAAAAAAAAH GOTTA HEAL HIM HUGE!" spell. Turning FoL into a regrowth makes it quite poor for spamming on a single target.

Waiting for a tank to lose a third of their healing before throwing a heal off is not exactly the most effective way to deal with spiky damage...

But, who knows. Maybe the FoL glyph, JoL and SS will combine to let us do this strat for 5 mans. Honestly, tho, I doubt it...

2: Heal each damaged target individually.

Shamans, CoH Priests, have you ever tried to do this when everyone is taking significant damage? Seriously?

Holy Light with Light's Grace is nice for this, and the Glyph does help out a bit, but it's not remotely mana efficient and is very, very, very, VERY slow. If Bacon is on the tank, you have to heal four people in a 5 man, one at a time. That's 6 seconds total with FoL/Holy Shock, 8 if you're using Holy Light because the damage was too much.

It's not always, but someone often dies when we have to do this.

Light AoE and targeted non-tank damage, we can deal with. But for a lot of bosses, it's nearly impossible to keep up.

We have a problem.

What we (okay, I and probably a fair number of other Holy paladins, given the #*!!*ing) is a moderate to high throughput AoE heal. Something that puts out high enough healing that it allows us to heal through heavy AoE damage. This would have to be balanced by a rather insane mana cost.

Think of it like this. We want an equivalent to Druid's having to spam Healing Touch on the tank for fights with heavy tank damage. Not mana efficient, not effective in the long term, CERTAINLY not effective in raiding unless it's that or death.

Something that lets us do the job that's in front of us, at any cost.

Is that really too much to ask?

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Q u o t e:

FoL is our spam heal.

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Here's the thing, its not really, because there is no such thing as a spam ability anymore. Potion Sickness makes it so that most of the time we cant just pre-heal through the game and we have to actually wait for the damage before using mana to heal it. Wrath healing is much more reactive.

What about Hand of Purity? Did that spell just die out or what?

Simple make beacon what it was before or make it so that the overhealing of beacon, whether on the beacon or off targets is redistributed to any player in range who needs it. The HUGE down fall of beacon is that it is a spell where your heal can be wasted two fold. Not to mention it has a pathetic duration timer for a big mana cost.

I still insist that a form of aoe, AKA the first incarnation of beacon was the best idea. It JUST NEEDED TWEAKING.

Yes I saw what you typed. Still think it's bs that it's acceptable for everyone and their mom to single target fine WHILE having good aoe but it's "anti-paladin" to be able to.

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Q u o t e:
Just say for sake of argument that anything remotely like Circle of Healing is off the table. Just pretend we said that it goes against the vision of the paladin class or whatever to ever AE heal (that's not true, but just roll with me here).

Now then, what is the one healing spell you would want added to your repetoire?

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Prayer of Mending.

Edit: The elaborate, a spell that is proactive rather than reactive. Maybe like PW:S. Maybe like a HoT.

A consecrate style heal would be interesting. In which you actually have to stand in it to get healed. It might be a little weak but it would certainly be interesting... and possibly quite useful on some fights.

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Q u o t e:
Just say for sake of argument that anything remotely like Circle of Healing is off the table. Just pretend we said that it goes against the vision of the paladin class or whatever to ever AE heal (that's not true, but just roll with me here).

Now then, what is the one healing spell you would want added to your repetoire?

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"Hand of Purity is a new "reactive healing" spell for Paladins, something that the oft-maligned 'two-button healers' sorely need. It will work as a clutch Prayer of Mending-type spell"


Remember that?

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Q u o t e:
Just say for sake of argument that anything remotely like Circle of Healing is off the table. Just pretend we said that it goes against the vision of the paladin class or whatever to ever AE heal (that's not true, but just roll with me here).

Now then, what is the one healing spell you would want added to your repetoire?

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I actually think that Seal of LIght and/or Judgement of Light is the area where Holy can gain that ability GC. What if Holy had a talent that healed the party for a certain percentage of the healing done/received by the Paladin's Seal of Light? What if Judgment of Light healed people near the target, or people near the Paladin for a certain percentage of damage done?

I think we have plenty of abilities out there, they just need to be made more useful. Make it so that Holy Paladins have a good reason to melee, by making the abilities we do have, but aren't encouraged to use, more useful.

Consecrate comes to mind as well. Long have we suggested that it gain a healing component. Stick that in deep holy.

The talent Divine Guardian is nice. Rather than heal, it reduces damage the party takes, ideal for an AoE scenario. Make this a Holy talent, and make it available more often. Paladins don't necessarily need an AoE heal, if they can have a means of reducing AoE damage to where we can heal it effectively.

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A consecrate style heal would be interesting. In which you actually have to stand in it to get healed. It might be a little weak but it would certainly be interesting... and possibly quite useful on some fights.

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This is a nice thought. You could simply add the healing portion of the spell into the Holy Talent tree. With this though you would have to reduce some of the mana cost of the spell, but that could be done with other talents. (Purifying Power as well as the new talent)

It would make the DPS or whomever that needed the heal group up with the paladin and in essence making the paladin feel like the "protector" he is.

how about reverse consecration, healz anyone in a 5/10/15 yard radius for X amount a second, lasts 10 seconds, 2 minute cooldown. Small and helpful AoE, like Gift of Naaru x5 peeps.

Maybe give paladins an AoE heal that isn't as strong as a priests or shamans, but it is enough to get the job done. And make it cast also.. 2-3 seconds maybe (but then the healing would need to be buffed). Not asking for a Holy Light AoE heal, but more like a Holy Shock AoE heal (in terms of how much it will heal).

A new AoE heal will definately even some of the ground for Holy Paladins as healers compared to others.

Simplest way, unless you revert beacon to it's former form and tweak it to not suck, would be to give a talent that also heals target in the consecrate for 50/100% of consecrate damage.

A heal that could be used while silenced / interrupted.

If they really, really do not intend to give Paladins a true AoE heal i.e. CoH, CH, or WG, then they should give Paladins every trick in the book in regards to single target healing.

Shields, Prayer of Mending-like, a HoT that you can apply only to one person, etc. To really seal the deal that you want the Holy Paladin to be on the tank.

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Q u o t e:
Just say for sake of argument that anything remotely like Circle of Healing is off the table. Just pretend we said that it goes against the vision of the paladin class or whatever to ever AE heal (that's not true, but just roll with me here).

Now then, what is the one healing spell you would want added to your repetoire?

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I'd want a HoT. Not a glyph that takes my primary spell and turns it into a HoT, an actual HoT.

edit: you could call it Hand of Trust

Or just bash all other aoe healers single target healing into the ground.

What's this bs of "everyone can do that... Except you!"

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Or just bash all other aoe healers single target healing into the ground.

What's this bs of "everyone can do that... Except you!"

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Bring the healer, not the player?

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Q u o t e:
Just say for sake of argument that anything remotely like Circle of Healing is off the table. Just pretend we said that it goes against the vision of the paladin class or whatever to ever AE heal (that's not true, but just roll with me here).

Now then, what is the one healing spell you would want added to your repetoire?

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Honestly, it's Beacon in its current incarnation. 8 seconds of party healing is going to be more like 6, since you should have some haste gear and always have JotP up. In those 6 seconds you put out 4 holy lights, each one hitting for around 5600. The cool thing about the HL glyph is that it can heal the same target as the HL, so each heal does about 6100 healing assuming no crits and no HL glyph overlap. By comparison, in 6 seconds a priest can get off 2 prayer of healing (CoH has a relatively small range so...), which with 2000 healing in the old system heals for about 2200 total, for 4500 total.

There should be no way that there is so much aoe damage in a 5man that somebody can die in 6 seconds and if there is, you should be able to triage it to keep the person with the lowest health alive.

The only healing change that I would want added to repertoire is a change to beacon of light. Is it possible to have the beacon heal do the same effects as the parent heal? For example, if i HS a target and the beacon hs heal crits, i get infusion. If i HL glyph a target, the beacon heal does 10% splatter heal, if I FoL a target, the FoL heal goes on the target as well as the beacon. That would be so cool.

edit: also, in case you read this, its not so much an ability as it is utility, could we get some buff on the target when we crit heal them? Shamans get ancestral healing and awakening, priests have inspiration, druids get living seed. This would work nicely with beacon, since beacon can crit.

To tell you the truth, there is not another heal I would like added to our repetoire. I just think if a few things could be tweaked, you wouldn't hear so many pleas for an AoE heal.

Take Beacon for example. Many people, including myself, find it's downfall in only working from effective healing. I have found many times that you just cannot count on the healing from Beacon to do much. For instance, you toss it on a tank so that you can throw out a few heals to the raid knowing that the healing you do will still go to him. However, with the change to CoH being smart and raid wide, that heal you cast to a raid member is often wasted as the priest's CoH usually hits that target before our casted heal lands.

Why can't Beacon be more of a smart heal raid wide? What if the overheal problem could go to the lowest person under the effect of Beacon? You attempt to heal a target, but someone beats you to it. Why can't that heal then be redirected to someone who needs it i.e the current lowest hp raid member under the effect of Beacon?

Beacon is also extremely painful to keep up throughout an encounter. I typically toss it up at the beginning of an encounter, but rarely do I ever feel like I have the time or mana to re-apply it between judging for the haste and flat out healing. I enjoy having to think about when is the right time to spend a GCD, but there are so many now that reapplying Beacon it usually at the very bottom of my list.