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  • Cenarion Circle
  • 40. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:37:53 PM PST
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moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire>moonfire

spam it all day i feel like leveling a doomkin and binding moonfire to Q so i can just jump around spamming it on people.


You can't kill people with moonfire spam. There is no world where spamming moonfire is ever a good idea.

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  • 42. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:41:16 PM PST
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Yes it is. It's an AOE. if other classes wanted to run around and spam their AOE to break you out of stealth, they could.


Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. Other AOE effects don't immediately select at target. Starfall will damage a target within 30 yards, regardless of the fact if they are even stealthed or not. It is instant, and has no visible marker that allows one to move out of it's range.

It's essentially like having a 30 yard arcane explosion.

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  • Dunemaul
  • 43. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:43:37 PM PST
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What good was removing perception when you give boomkins a 30 yard range upgraded version of it?

More importantly than all the other arena maps, how is this going to nullify a rogue in the orgrimmar arena when the teams start literally right next to eachother? Once the gates open, there is no possible way for a rogue to get 30 yards away from the other team in time.

Is there any hope to land an opener against a boomkin team in the arena?


TLDR: QQ


boomkin have more escapes than locks. More armor, same CC or more, and more mobility to create distance. oh and some healing

Yet you should as a rogue have NO problem killing them. Why do locks have to suck so bad though is the question

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  • Bonechewer
  • 44. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:43:39 PM PST
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It's essentially like having a 30 yard arcane explosion.


Thirty six.

H-ROTH 2200 Boomkin PVP http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=67959

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  • 45. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:45:11 PM PST
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Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. Other AOE effects don't immediately select at target. Starfall will damage a target within 30 yards, regardless of the fact if they are even stealthed or not. It is instant, and has no visible marker that allows one to move out of it's range.

It's essentially like having a 30 yard arcane explosion.



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I don't even have a boomkin, but for every time I've been sapped while standing in the center of a flare, for every time I've watched a rogue step on a trap and not have it go off, for every stunlocked death I've suffered, I approve this spell. Rogue QQ has nerfed what used to be my built in counters to rogues into the ground.

Viva la Laser Chicken!

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  • Dunemaul
  • 46. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:46:43 PM PST
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I don't even have a boomkin, but for every time I've been sapped while standing in the center of a flare, for every time I've watched a rogue step on a trap and not have it go off, for every stunlocked death I've suffered, I approve this spell. Rogue QQ has nerfed what used to be my built in counters to rogues into the ground.

Viva la Laser Chicken!
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  • Bonechewer
  • 47. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:48:26 PM PST
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Lol Rogues have no friends.

H-ROTH 2200 Boomkin PVP http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=67959

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  • Terokkar
  • 48. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:49:06 PM PST
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Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. Other AOE effects don't immediately select at target. Starfall will damage a target within 30 yards, regardless of the fact if they are even stealthed or not. It is instant, and has no visible marker that allows one to move out of it's range.

It's essentially like having a 30 yard arcane explosion.


The moonkin gets a moon over their head while its in effect. Quite easy to see too.

I'm usually logged in my pvp gear. This is not my dps or tank gear.
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  • Barthilas
  • 49. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:50:47 PM PST
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Clearly all three Druid spec must be the best in the game.
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  • 50. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:53:35 PM PST
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Hey Ollie, what does your rogue think about Starfall?

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  • 51. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:54:36 PM PST
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I for one think that 9 of the 10 classes are pretty dam happy that at least 1 of them has a ability that just flat ruins a rogues day.

Not to mention once I break your stealth I can just pop my treants and spam moonfire
(treants do one hell of a lot of damage if specced into brambles)

Meaning that once every 3 minutes I am the counter to a rogue (yay for me)
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  • Terokkar
  • 53. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:56:56 PM PST
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Clearly all three Druid spec must be the best in the game.


Its funny a rogue says this...

I'm usually logged in my pvp gear. This is not my dps or tank gear.
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  • 54. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:57:28 PM PST
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The moonkin gets a moon over their head while its in effect. Quite easy to see too.


It's also completely instant. Arcane explosion has a graphic too! Except it's instant as well. But it's not 36 yards.

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  • Vashj
  • 55. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:57:48 PM PST
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This just in: rogues need help in arena.

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  • Terokkar
  • 56. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 07:59:52 PM PST
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It's also completely instant. Arcane explosion has a graphic too! Except it's instant as well. But it's not 36 yards.


So 1 ability that makes things not lolstunlock easy mode rains on your parade? Well QQ since you've ignored Liss' logical answer. Its an AoE thats whole purpose is to knock you out of stealth since its damage is underwhelming compared to its cooldown.

I'm usually logged in my pvp gear. This is not my dps or tank gear.
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  • 57. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 08:15:31 PM PST
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It's also completely instant. Arcane explosion has a graphic too! Except it's instant as well. But it's not 36 yards.


Hey, that's a great point! Lets give mages a 36 yd version of arcane blast that does 2 damage! Then starfall would be fair!

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  • 58. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 09:12:58 PM PST
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We don't have a problem with Starfall breaking stealth. There are plenty of other spells that do so and Starfall is hard to spam.

However, Starfall is an unusual spell in that it isn't channeled and can even follow the druid around. So we are going to change it so that shifting cancels the spell. Having a druid run around in cat or travel form with Starfall raining down in an attempt to break stealth is not really what we had in mind for the spell.
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  • Aerie Peak
  • 59. Re: Starfall and rogues   11/03/2008 09:14:56 PM PST
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