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I read this article and it's stupid and inconceivable that the authorities could be so paranoid. Also, what's wrong with apple, the ipod warranty should cover that sort of thing.

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I'd sooner call you naive. They do get paranoid sometimes, but I don't see it here. There are procedures for a reason. Some guy's word that it was an iPod and not a bomb isn't good enough.

You don't need a very large device to blow a hole large enough in a plane to crash the thing.

testing

Tuhljin, the fact that I and 52 others were detained for over 5 hours is unacceptable in my opinion. I understand security concerns, but personally I value liberty over security.

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Tuhljin, the fact that I and 52 others were detained for over 5 hours is unacceptable in my opinion. I understand security concerns, but personally I value liberty over security.

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FIVE HOURS, oh poor you! I had to wait FIVE HOURS! This is unacceptable! Surely my rights to not be detained no matter how suspicious my activities appear to be on the surface have been violated!

You could have sold that ipod on ebay for lots of money lol

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Jack Sparrow's daftness
is better called his deftness.
Not the case with Daft.

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Dude here in canada we protect our intrest in red tape not security. As much as i hate to admit it you have to fill out this form aat this desk ect before your free to go.

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FIVE HOURS, oh poor you! I had to wait FIVE HOURS! This is unacceptable! Surely my rights to not be detained no matter how suspicious my activities appear to be on the surface have been violated!

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Suspicious activity is not a valid excuse for five hours of policy and procedure, involving at least 4 government agencies, ESPECIALLY given the nature of this suspicious activity (ie, not all that suspicious). You'd think, MAYBE, by then "innocent until proven guilty" would have had some effect on this whole thing.

Five hours of detainment of 53 people would be warranted only if the activities were pretty damn suspicious, or if maybe someone had been charged or a warrant received. Giving into fear of this magnitude is exactly what those who really would bomb an aircraft want from us.

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Suspicious activity is not a valid excuse for five hours of policy and procedure, involving at least 4 government activities, ESPECIALLY given the nature of this suspicious activity (ie, not all that suspicious). You'd think, MAYBE, by then "innocent until proven guilty" would have had some effect on this whole thing.

Five hours of detainment of 53 people would be warranted only if the activities were pretty damn suspicious, or if maybe someone had been charged or a warrant received. Giving into fear of this magnitude is exactly what those who really would bomb an aircraft want from us.

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Stop with your straw men, please. "Innocent until proven guilty" is what you do in the court room, not law enforcement - otherwise criminals would never be stopped unless caught "red handed."

"Suspicious activity is not a valid excuse for five hours of policy and procedure." Once again, only those caught red-handed could be taken care of. Ridiculous.

And there's a difference between "giving into fear" and being prudent. Just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean the rest of us should have an even bigger reason to fear: Lack of common sense in security matters.

Sure, they go overboard sometimes, but FIVE HOURS of wait time? That's your case for the government stepping in too far? Give me a break.

(And with that, I'm off for the time being. Have fun "proving" me wrong.)

I love you Stupid

ROFL

Posting in a now Legendary thread. You sir win the internets.

Oh man. Stupid, when Atsuka asked me "Did you hear what happened to Stupid?" and had me go read the story, all I could think of was, "poor guy, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy... let alone one of the Horde on CR I honestly respect." You have my utmost sympathy. I think Atsuka said it best when he said, "Question authority, but do not challenge authority."

Glad everything came out alright in the end!

OP--not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, I only had time left to read the first 2 pages after reading yoru story and checking out the links. While we can all attest that you were in the uneviable position of precautions taken to a absurd level, I feel obligated to point out that this is the price of vigilance. Things that are a danger in this sort of theme are deliberately disguised to be innocious, like a sports bottle with some drink...or toothpaste. These personel are trained to consider everything as being a potential hazard...and you should welcome that level of training and earnest attention to detail those people pursue. It is unfortunately, the response that is required due to the beliefs and actions of a group of hate mongering fanatics who use (as most such as they do) misrepresented and interpeted religious texts to justify their actions. It is regretible that you had to endure it, but take assurance in the other side of this episode that the airlines and gov't do in fact, respond with vigilance instead of casual apathy as they have in the past.

(Note: I do agree with your reply to his question about if you have anythign against him deciding what constitutes allowable data into the country based upon his subjective opinion rather than upholding the law).

dude.... this was worth every minute spent reading it. thats an awesome story. you'll be able to tell that to your grandkids when you're old!

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TLDR.

Can I have a Haiku now? :-)

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Ipod disappeared
customs clearly hates free speach
too long, did not read